24-10-2004 08:28									#91
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On one hand we in american can't say **** about it. We have a high divorce rate and have sex on average less times a year than many european nations.

I just don't want to reach the point where I'm like: oh, it's just another breast. big deal. I think I'm that way with porn. I've watched so much I'm desensitized to it. Now I try not to watch any at all, so when I do see it, it does something for me.

	24-10-2004 08:34									#92
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American porn industry > Euro porn industry. Biggest porn consumers == Americans.

So in fact, you do desensitize yourselves like Dissident says, but rather do it watching porn than actually doing it.

No wait?

Yeah.

can we please get at least one insecure guy to post here 'HEY I have sex with my wife 9 times a week, that's more than you masturbate, loser!' so I can prove my point?

	25-10-2004 22:33									#93
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My g/f's family are nudists, so on some occasions in summer I have to go to the area of their club if I don't want to spend a weekend alone. It's not my thing, but I actually don't care either to go there, though I sometimes have to think about the Garry Larson cartoon, where a Grizzly comes to a nudists beach and says: "ugh, I've just lost my appetite." And it's not so great to eat sausages at BBQ there.

	25-10-2004 22:57									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor I've been living in Germany for three weeks now (hence my non-presence here), and I love this country. Each time I'm amazed by how "different" the place is. 1. Naked, mixed gender saunas Well, it doesn't deserve to be the #1 perk of Germany, but this way I'm sure you'll be reading my thread I went yesterday for the first time in a German sauna, with two female friends and a boyfriend of theirs. Here, many German / Finns would wonder "so what?", but from my French (and hence nudity-shy) perspective, it was something completely new. Dozens of naked people, of both genders and all ages above 16, we entering a sauna, taking a shower, or bathing in cold water. And I was among them, quite unsure of what to do. Fortunately, my friends (whom I saw naked for the first time as well) helped me feeling comfortable quickly. It's quite strange at first, as I was still considering nudity as something sexual, something intimous (and I still do to some extent). But the mood was really good, and I was soon completely unhinibited. Not only with nudity, mind you, but with other things as well (I tend to avoid speaking German, as I'm shy on my German skills - such inhibition disappeared just the same as my nudity-inhibition). Because in such circumstances, we don't evaluate each other. We are all wholly exposed, and thus don't we feel like criticizing the other. In a kind of way, we're completely equal. I didn't even think some snide comment about the old naked people in the sauna; heck, I didn't even noticed them It was really gemütlich as the German say, a pleasant feeling of being like at home... In any case, it was an excellent experience, that I recommand to everybody here, and that I'm looking forward to repeat (btw, I happened to watch "Girls Gone Wild" some time ago. It's basically American girls exposing their breasts to everybody on the beach during springbreak, and making a big fuss about it. So what? I just showed my dick to dozens of people, and just saw dozens of breast - where's the big deal?)

Where are your family values, Spiffy?

	25-10-2004 23:23									#95
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quote: Originally posted by Wernazuma III sometimes I have to think about the Garry Larson cartoon, where a Grizzly comes to a nudists beach and says: "ugh, I've just lost my appetite." And it's not so great to eat sausages at BBQ there.

TMI

	26-10-2004 00:21									#96
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This is a funny topic. Saunas and bathhouses have a rather... ummm... sordid history here in the States. Especially single-sex.

But single sex public showers are de rigeur. A lot of immigrants find even single sex showers pretty uncomfortable.

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	26-10-2004 00:34									#97
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DanS, BUSTED! Immigrants don't shower...

	26-10-2004 02:10									#98
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quote: Originally posted by Wernazuma III My g/f's family are nudists, so on some occasions in summer I have to go to the area of their club if I don't want to spend a weekend alone. It's not my thing, but I actually don't care either to go there, though I sometimes have to think about the Garry Larson cartoon, where a Grizzly comes to a nudists beach and says: "ugh, I've just lost my appetite." And it's not so great to eat sausages at BBQ there.

Personally, I have nothing against nudists, when younger I went to some nudist beaches (plenty of them here in Croatia) and was sorely dissapointed to find out that my target group of young females is a rare sight there

Who cares, they're more attractive with some clothes on anyway

	26-10-2004 02:15									#99
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And I don't care about customs and social politeness either.

I wouldn't eat with chopsticks in China, I wouldn't bow to people in Japan and I especially wouldn't go into sauna naked in Finland.

Ok, the last one I would, but only because it is more practical - not because they say I must!

Rebels without reasons

	26-10-2004 23:15									#100
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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion And I don't care about customs and social politeness either.

You must be a great traveling companion!

	26-10-2004 23:38									#101
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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion Personally, I have nothing against nudists, when younger I went to some nudist beaches (plenty of them here in Croatia) and was sorely dissapointed to find out that my target group of young females is a rare sight there

Now, guess,where my parents in law used to go for holidays...

	08-11-2004 22:33									#102
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If nudists look like some fat croatian skier..