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Locutus
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ACS CTP1/2 Manager & Civ4 Co-Manager
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Hengelo, The Netherlands
Nov 1999
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Originally posted by alva
I saw this on the tele a couple of weeks and must say that it did make me chuckle a little.
I mean; Fortuyn????? Hey, you no longer get to leugh at the English for including Dianna.  |
I couldn't agree more, the choice for Fortuyn hurts the credibility of the rest of the list (which aside from Fortuyn is better than I had expected). If I were to list all important Dutch people in history, I would rate Patty Brard higher than Fortuyn 
Then again, every official list I've seen so far has at least one silly name on it: Fortuyn for us, Diana for the English, some hockey commentator for Canada...
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I do hope they never do this show here though.
Gonna be pretty hard anyway, no idea where they would get 10 people anyway.  |
I can only agree there. I mean, who would win it, Manneke Pis?
But I have bad news for you: I heard the VRT will host a Greatest Belgian Person show on Canvas over the courses of next year. I *would* be seriously interested though to learn what the Belgian top 10 will be like (and how the Flemish/Walloon division will be  )
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Ann Frank ??? 
Never understud what makes her so special.
Could be my aversion to subjects being force-fed at school though. |
I don't really like that choice either, but mostly because she's a symbol for something, not actually someone who made great contributions. I mean, her diary was fascinating to read and everything, but it doesn't compare to the works or Grotius, or the Constitution...
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IIRC Rembrandts parents were Flemish??or was it his grandparents? |
His parents most certainly weren't, and I've never heard of his grandparents being Flemish either. But even if they were, you can't blame Rembrandt, nobody's perfect
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Clearly the winner should be Cruijf; a great footballer only topped by his poetry, in itself inferior to his unique philosophy. 
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He does have a rather unique perspective on things
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BeBro
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of the Krauts
Mar 2000
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German tv station ZDF did this a while ago, results:
1. Konrad Adenauer (first chancellor after WWII)
2. Martin Luther
3. Karl Marx
4. Hans and Sophie Scholl (opposed Nazi rule, killed by the Nazis)
5. Willy Brandt
6. Johann Sebastian Bach
7. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
8. Johannes Gutenberg
9. Otto von Bismarck
10. Albert Einstein
My personal favourites from those are Bach, Gutenberg and Brandt (in no particular order).
Last edited by BeBro on 24-10-2004 at 15:27
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Zulu Elephant
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Great Britains in no particular order:
Winston Churchill
John Stuart Mill
John Locke
William Gladstone
Charles Dickens
Charles Darwin
John Maynard Keynes
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Sn00py
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From New Zealand
Aug 2001
time: 13:20
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For New Zealand:
Not in order of importance:
Sir Edmund Hillary: First to climb Mt Everest
Alexander Aitken: New Zealander Alexander Aitken was one of the world’s most brilliant mathematical minds, able to multiply two 9-digit numbers together in his head and recite the answer in 30 seconds, or render awkward fractions into decimals to 26 places in under five seconds. His extraordinary abilities were studied by psychologists in Britain during the 1920s.
Nancy Wake: Nancy Wake was the Allies' most decorated servicewoman of WWII, and the Gestapo’s most-wanted person. They code-named her 'The White Mouse'. She led an army of 7,000 Maquis troops in guerrilla warfare to sabotage the Nazis.
Keith Park: "If any one man won the Battle of Britain, he did. I do not believe it is realised how much that one man, with his leadership, his calm judgement and his skill, did to save, not only this country, but the world." Lord Tedder – Chief of the Royal Air Force, February 1947.
Ernest Rutherford: The creator of modern atomic physics and forerunner of the nuclear age, one of the greatest scientists of the twentieth century. Awarded the Nobel Prize in 1908. The man who "tunnelled into the very material of God":
Maurice Wilkins: Nobel Prize winner in Physiology and Medicine in 1962. Research undertaken by New Zealander Maurice Wilkins helped lead to the discovery in 1953 by James Watson and Francis Crick of the DNA molecule structure - the very essence of life itself. The discovery revolutionised biology and medicine.
Richard Pearse: On or about 31st March 1903 reclusive New Zealand farmer Richard Pearse climbed into his monoplane at his Waitohi property and flew for about 140 metres before crashing into a gorse hedge. "Mad Pearse": self-taught inventor, prophetic designer, trail blazing aviator, and eccentric visionary, who against incredible odds, ingeniously sought the sun and pioneered powered flight.
William Pickering: The launch of Sputnik in 1957 forced the United States into the space race. In the Cold War they needed to show the world that they too could launch a rocket into space. Less than three months later Explorer 1 was launched. The man behind it: William Pickering.
Kate Sheppard: The leader and main figurehead of the suffragist movement in New Zealand, the first country in the world to grant universal adult suffrage to men and women equally. Kate was a source of inspiration to suffragists, both in New Zealand and throughout the world.
Sir Harold Gillies: The introduction of more ferocious weapons and trench warfare in the First World War resulted in devastating injuries. A new type of surgery was needed. Rhinoplasty, skin grafts, and facial reconstructions have been practised for centuries. However, it was New Zealander Sir Harold Delf Gillies who standardised these techniques and established the discipline of 'plastic surgery'.
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our_man
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Glasgow, Scotland
Oct 2000
time: 05:20
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Great Irishmen:
1. Michael Collins (1890 - 1922)
Fought in the GPO during the 1916 Rising. He went onto mastermind the War of Independence against the British, commanding the Irish Volunteers (later IRA) in a geurilla war; his strategies would later be used by Begin during the Israeli War of Independence. A signatory of the Anglo-Irish Treaty of 1921 that led to the Civil War, he was accused of betraying the Republic upon returning to Ireland. He led the Free State forces against the 'Irregular' IRA rebels. He was assassinated by anti-treaty forces at Beal na mBlath, August 22nd, 1922.
2. Theobald Wolfe Tone (1764 - 1798)
Father of Irish Republicanism. A protestant, he believed in an Ireland where all Irishmen would be equal, irrespective of their religion - a radical opinion with the penal laws still in place. He joined the French Army and convinced the French to send three expeditions to Ireland. He was on the final one of these, where he was captured by British forces. Executed for treason.
3. Eamon de Valera (1882 - 1975)
Highest ranking leader of the leader of the 1916 Rising who was not executed. Spent most of the War of Independence touring the U.S.A., trying to raise funds for an Irish Republic. Opposed the Anglo-Irish treaty and was interned for most of the Civil War. Broke from Sinn Fein to form Fianna Fail, who came into power in 1932. He declared consitutional independence from Britain in 1937 and became Taoiseach. Re-elected Taoiseach in 1948, 1951 and 1957. Kept Ireland neutral in the 2nd World War. Was elected President, 1959-1966.
4. Robert Boyle (1627 - 1691)
The father of chemistry.
5. Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900)
Famous writer. Extremely eccentric - while at Oxford he had a pet lobster that he used to walk down the main street on a leash. He was thrown into jail for being homosexual. One of the most quoted people in history.
Lots more, but these will do for a start.
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