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Caught in a tuna net
Jan 1970 time: 05:20
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quote: Originally posted by GePap
I wonder what methodology they used that gave them a number so much higher than the generally accounted for number? |
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationw...world-headlines
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To conduct the survey, investigators visited 33 neighborhoods spread evenly across the country in September, randomly selecting clusters of 30 households to sample. Of the 988 households visited, 808, consisting of 7,868 people, agreed to participate in the survey. At each one they asked how many people lived in the home and how many births and deaths there had been since January 2002.
The scientists then compared death rates in the 15 months before the invasion with those that occurred during the 18 months after the attack and adjusted those numbers to account for the different time periods.
Even though the sample size appears small, this type of survey is considered accurate and acceptable by scientists and was used to calculate war deaths in Kosovo in the late 1990s.
The investigators worked in teams of three. Five of the six Iraqi interviewers were doctors and all six were fluent in English and Arabic.
In the households reporting deaths, the person who died had to be living there at the time of the death and for more than two months before to be counted. In an attempt at firmer confirmation, the interviewers asked for death certificates in 78 households and were provided them 63 times.
There were 46 deaths in the surveyed households before the war. After the invasion, there were 142 deaths. That is an increase from 5 deaths per 1,000 people per year to 12.3 per 1,000 people per year -- more than double.
However, more than a third of the post-invasion deaths were reported in one cluster of households in the city Falluja, where fighting has been most intense recently. Because the fighting was so severe there, the numbers from that location may have exaggerated the overall picture.
When the researchers recalculated the effect of the war without the statistics from Falluja, the deaths end up at 7.9 per 1,000 people per year -- still 1.5 times higher than before the war. |
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FUKCOV - Former United Kingdom Colony of Virginia
Dec 2000 time: 00:20
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara
quote: The researchers blamed air strikes for many of the deaths.
"What we have evidence of is the use of air power in populated urban areas and the bad consequences of it," Roberts said.
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"We were not expecting the level of deaths from violence that we found in this study. . . . | |
"Tuesday, March 11, 2003
HEALTH AND HUMAN RIGHTS TEACH-IN: THE WAR IN IRAQ
See "More Information".
Tuesday, March 11, 2003
4:30 PM - 6:30 PM
East Baltimore
Building: 615 N. Wolfe St. - Bloomberg School of Public Health Room: East Wing Auditorium (Room W1214)
Cost: FREE
All students, faculty and staff are invited to a campus-wide teach-in regarding the potential health and human rights consequences of war in Iraq. The event will feature presentations from distinguished faculty and open discussion of issues raised. "Report from a fact-finding mission in Iraq: The vulnerability of life-saving public health and medical infrastructure" Michael VanRooyen, MD MPH: Associate Professor & Vice Chair, Department of Emergency Medicine Director, International Emergency Medicine Residency Program Co-Director, Center for International Emergency, Disaster and Refugee Studies (CIEDRS) "The management of complex humanitarian emergencies in the wake of armed conflict" Gilbert Burnham, MD PhD Associate Professor, Department of International Health Co-Director, Center for International Emergency, Disaster and Refugee Studies (CIEDRS) "Stress to environmental, water and sanitation systems during war" Les Roberts, PhD Associate Professor, Whiting School of Engineering Director of Health Policy, International Rescue Committee Robert Lawrence, MD (moderator) Edyth H. Schoenrich Professor of Preventive Medicine Associate Dean for Professional Practice and Programs The United States has spent many months planning for a concerted attack on Iraq, and in recent weeks, has revealed information about its massive military preparations. During this same period, there has been little public indication of plans and preparations to avoid civilian and "dual use" targets, minimize civilian casualties, or prepare for what may well be an enormous humanitarian crisis. Physicians for Human Rights (PHR) has concluded that preparing for such extraordinary use of military force to be deployed in a manner that will likely risk huge damage to infrastructure and civilian life, without due consideration for the consequences to the highly vulnerable population of Iraq, is intolerable. -PHR briefing paper, February 2003 "
Google is your friend.
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lord of the mark
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FUKCOV - Former United Kingdom Colony of Virginia
Dec 2000 time: 00:20
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor
"We don't do body counts"
Independent sources like http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ estimate it between 14,000 and 16,000 |
It should be noted that the above figure includes Iraqi victims of the insurgents, as well.
Oxblog
"Posted 2:33 AM by David Adesnik
FLOOD THE ZONE! FLOOD THE ZONE! Each day, the Washington Post performs an admirable service by updating the number of American soldiers killed and wounded in Iraq, while also providing the names of those fallen soldiers identified by the Pentagon.
This morning, however, the Washington Post committed a grave error by including estimates of Iraqi civlian casualties provided by iraqbodycount.net (IBC for short). The Post deceptively states that the figures are provided by Reuters and IBC. Yet Reuters itself states that the figures for civilian casualties come from IBC alone.
(NB: The Post provides the IBC figures on page A18 of Saturday morning's print edition. I have not been able to locate the figures online.)
In the past, OxBlog has demonstrated conclusively that IBC relies on fraudluent data and that its flagrant dishonesty reflects its lleft-wing extremist agenda.
Principal flaws of the IBC count include:
1) Counting the victims of suicide bombings as victims of American intervention.
2) Counting victims of common crime as victims of American intervention.
3) Claiming false knowledge of the names of such victims.
As my partner Josh Chafetz documented in the Weekly Standard in April 2003, IBC's has a long history of blatant deception. As both Josh and I have shown, mainstream publications have a disturbing habit of citing IBC as a reliable source."
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