30-10-2004 02:19									#31
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quote: Have you seen the Dan Darling material?

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Well he says it was a ruse to make people think he was feeble and couldn't move. Though he thinks if he was in the home of a prominent Pakistani official, he'd get the treatment he needed. I do think though that if he was by a major population center someone would have found out something.

	30-10-2004 02:23									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: Have you seen the Dan Darling material? Thanks Well he says it was a ruse to make people think he was feeble and couldn't move. Though he thinks if he was in the home of a prominent Pakistani official, he'd get the treatment he needed. I do think though that if he was by a major population center someone would have found out something.

thats what so special about Teheran. Its in a police state(much more controlled society than Pakistan), and it has (more or less) secret tunnel complexes.

	30-10-2004 02:36									#33
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark secret codes by their nature, are well, secret. IE Rumsfeld, and Ashcroft doesnt mean theyre gonna assasinate Rummy or the Fundie jerk AG. "Rumsfeld" could be code for "The Sears Tower". Or "Gatwick Airport" Or "all cells run to Iraq right now" "Cell 55, belay that last order" No point in speculating. Leave it to the puzzle decoders at NSA.

Don't say that, I gotta go to Gatwick Airport tomorrow.

	30-10-2004 02:44									#34
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"Kidney failure" might have meant any number of illnesses. It may be that he had prostate problems and a secondary urinary tract infection. Antibiotic treatment along with something to relax the spjincter of the bladder can work wonders for that. He might also have been eating too many aspirins. If that condition is caught early enough just stopping the aspirin can reverse the condition. It may be that he has diabetes mellitus and hypertension. Getting those conditions under control can stabilize renal function. Not every kidney disease leads to the need for dialysis.

Maybe his Pakistani doctor gave him the kidneys of one of the hostages.

	30-10-2004 02:45									#35
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This is a very appropriate time for this, the american public will feel terrorised and vote Bush in, and the circle will continue to turn. [shrugs] It was kinda predictable considering how close the election was running. I think its going to be many years before this scenario will be laid to rest.

	30-10-2004 02:46									#36
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In the video, Bin Laden says that Bush is misleading the American people. It seems like Bin Laden is getting his talking points from the DNC.

	30-10-2004 02:56									#37
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And like the DNC, he has Bush to thanks for all the material.

Thanks for Helping Osama, Dubyah

	30-10-2004 03:13									#38
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quote: Originally posted by GePap And like the DNC, he has Bush to thanks for all the material. Thanks for Helping Osama, Dubyah

well according to that bbc documentary that has been running over the last few weeks, each needs the other to keep their cause alive. I'm not saying they are in cahoots together - they really do want to kill each others 'side'. But its become a bitter irony that without the other each cant hope to win the 'hearts and minds' of their respective people's approval(bin ladens group has failed on numerous occasions to get the popular uprising he wanted in various countries around north africa and the middle-east).
It would almost be funny - except i just cant take the image of dead innocent men,women and children(!) out of my mind, from both sides

	30-10-2004 03:30									#39
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It's interesting that the US media agencies actively spread the message of bin Laden. Israeli security services have always suggested that terrorists should not be getting an easy opportunity to make themselves heard. All bin Laden has to do is make a videotape, and it gets aired, with US sources providing translations, airing parts of it or it all, etc. Whereas it might be more sensible to just submit the tape to the authorities and all - no advertising of bin Laden on TV.

	30-10-2004 03:33									#40
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Oh, and the search for Osama concluded in a complete failure, despite the announcement earlier this year that "his capture is imminient". It looks like the US has no idea of where he is, at all. And I somehow don't think that he's hiding in a cave all day, I believe he is living pretty nicely in a "friendly country". Could be Iran, very likely, heck, even Russia or China. Asia is a big place.

	30-10-2004 03:52									#41
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Why does the media go on and on about this crap. Bin laden releases new videotape... woopty freeaking doo...

BLAH BLAH BLAH america will die BLAH BALH BALH death to the infidels

seriously, I don't want to see this ******* unless his head is on a pike...

oh god and the worst part about this is the dumbass bush supporters who chant in union, "bin laden wants kerry to win"... I'm gonna puke if I hear someone say that... puke, then punch them in the ****ing head.

Bush is a failure... over 3 years since 9-11 and bin Laden isn't dead or in US custody.

	30-10-2004 03:52									#42
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You know, Osama looks in better shape than Kerry or Bush do right now - and he's on the run from a superpower as well as having four wives to satisfy sexually.

Americans really are wimps.

	30-10-2004 04:08									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon You know, Osama looks in better shape than Kerry or Bush do right now - and he's on the run from a superpower as well as having four wives to satisfy sexually. Americans really are wimps.

	30-10-2004 06:24									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: Was the assertion that he suffered from kidney failure a lie? It seems like it. He looked very healthy.

He should be since he is being held in a facility outside Washington and forced to produce tapes which then find their way to jeezie TV.

	30-10-2004 07:06									#45
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Well, Osamaa appeared before the election like we all predicted... what do we get?

	30-10-2004 07:07									#46
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THIS IS ****ING RIDICULOUS

THIS MAN SHOULD HAVE BEEN CAUGHT YEARS AGO

****ING MORE INCOMPETENCE FROM OUR DEAR LEADER

	30-10-2004 07:09									#47
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I do believe this tape IS a code, it's not really a "secret" code as much as it is a signal

The part about Bush reading the whole goat story was very detailed, I think that's the go signal.

Let's hope everybody stays safe this weekend.

NOT CATCHING THIS GUY IS SO INCOMPETENT

I firmly believe that this administration has absolutley NO IDEA where he is hiding.

	30-10-2004 07:09									#48
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**** is about to hit the fan

	30-10-2004 07:12									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker THIS IS ****ING RIDICULOUS THIS MAN SHOULD HAVE BEEN CAUGHT YEARS AGO ****ING MORE INCOMPETENCE FROM OUR DEAR LEADER

Your right. After they attacked a US warship and bombed US embasseys he should have been taken care of

	30-10-2004 07:17									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber Your right. After they attacked a US warship and bombed US embasseys he should have been taken care of

	30-10-2004 07:34									#51
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The more I think about it the more I think that Bin Laden wants Bush for four more years.

Fact of the matter is, at the moment the GOP have the easier job of spinning this because, quite frankly, it affirms the war on terror is still pertinent and Bush is the incumbent, while Kerry cannot be seen to be capitalising on an enemy's word.

So while Bush has the easier job, why didn't Bin Laden actively challenge the GOP line? Moreso, why did he affirm that the war on terror is an extremely important issue? The reason is quite obvious really. While Bush continues to go off on overseas field trips, anti-US hatred is stirred up and they look for their leader, Bin Laden, who is apparantly quite cosy because of Bush's incompetence. Bin Laden gets more recruits, will be safer for four more years at least while he has support, and the US will fall into a state in which its armed forces simply cannot keep up.

Brilliant strategy really.

	30-10-2004 07:45									#52
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As crass as I feel spinning this back to "how it affects the election," I think at the very least Bush has to feel somewhat relieved that this has now pushed the missing-explosives story off the front page.

	30-10-2004 07:48									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Kalius The more I think about it the more I think that Bin Laden wants Bush for four more years. Fact of the matter is, at the moment the GOP have the easier job of spinning this because, quite frankly, it affirms the war on terror is still pertinent and Bush is the incumbent, while Kerry cannot be seen to be capitalising on an enemy's word. So while Bush has the easier job, why didn't Bin Laden actively challenge the GOP line? Moreso, why did he affirm that the war on terror is an extremely important issue? The reason is quite obvious really. While Bush continues to go off on overseas field trips, anti-US hatred is stirred up and they look for their leader, Bin Laden, who is apparantly quite cosy because of Bush's incompetence. Bin Laden gets more recruits, will be safer for four more years at least while he has support, and the US will fall into a state in which its armed forces simply cannot keep up. Brilliant strategy really.

Bin Laden likes Bush because Bush is the greatest terrorist recruiter of them all

Also his incompetence works in Bin Laden's favor

	30-10-2004 07:57									#54
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Precisely

	30-10-2004 08:33									#56
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I think everyone is trying to see this in whatever light supports their candidate. Spinning it around in their heads until their opinions are only confirmed when in reality this video is as important as any of the others. Meaning not worth a ****. But if it makes everyone feel good then I suppose it's ok.

	30-10-2004 09:17									#57
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	30-10-2004 09:24									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber He should be since he is being held in a facility outside Washington and forced to produce tapes which then find their way to jeezie TV.

yes, and bush periodically releases one of these tapes to get the "war on terror" thing going on...

	30-10-2004 11:06									#59
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Transcript:
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm

Nothing specific mentioned, though from the language it is probably recent. He didn't rail against the afghan elections which I think is interesting considering the argument hes trying to make here.

also, they held back about 4 minutes of it, saying it "wasn't newsworthy".

	30-10-2004 11:48									#60
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Idiotically I declare a war I can never win, against the great Ted Striker.

I remember his input into the great and venerated econ threads of yesteryear and I am loathe to criticize, I feel I must though. Ted Striker has taken his status of popularity from 'I would hit it' and soiled it the muck of partisan politics. So it is with a heavy heart that I must

Ted Striker