31-10-2004 03:50									#91
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Nixen. Very few socalled ethinc danes are hit, but it's a very big hit in newspapers etc when you can find an example where an ethnic dane is hit by the rules. The vast majority that is hit by the rules is "nonetnich" danes.

Yes, there are criterias you have tho live up to to get the money back, and what is the problem with that ? Isn't it resaonable with a three year period to learn the language of the country you want to stay in for the rest of your life ?

You forgot inflation.

	31-10-2004 03:59									#92
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I think the Danish policy on immigration has very little to do with Bin Laden's latest words of wisdom.

Maybe Tripledoc should open a new thread if he's so keen on the subject. Preferably in "Other Games".

	31-10-2004 04:00									#93
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quote: Originally posted by Winston Maybe Tripledoc should open a new thread if he's so keen on the subject. Preferably in "Other Games".

	31-10-2004 04:59									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Winston I think the Danish policy on immigration has very little to do with Bin Laden's latest words of wisdom. Maybe Tripledoc should open a new thread if he's so keen on the subject. Preferably in "Other Games".

Oups. Sorry, got carried away - back to the track:

I don't think OBL gives a s*** who is the american president as long as he don't approve shaira as the fundament for law.

The newly released speech from OBL is nothing but a psycologiacal bomb - there are no specific support for any of the candidates. It's more like a "hello, i'm still here, you can't be safe nowhere" message. It's just standard procedure to try to undermine the stability of your enemy.

And as a matter of fact, he has succeded. Just take the big debate whether he tries to support one or the other candidate - it weakens both.

	31-10-2004 05:17									#95
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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat Very few socalled ethinc danes are hit, but it's a very big hit in newspapers etc when you can find an example where an ethnic dane is hit by the rules. The vast majority that is hit by the rules is "nonetnich" danes.

No the majority who are hit by the law are ethnic Danes, and their non-Danish spouses..

quote: Yes, there are criterias you have tho live up to to get the money back, and what is the problem with that ? Isn't it resaonable with a three year period to learn the language of the country you want to stay in for the rest of your life ?

Ever hear of retroactive law-making? A bad idea.

	31-10-2004 05:22									#96
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quote: Originally posted by Winston I think the Danish policy on immigration has very little to do with Bin Laden's latest words of wisdom.

You found an opportunity to take a dump on Sweden, because bin Laden had mentioned it for its freedom. Then I mentioned in defense of Sweden laws in Denmark which makes it a less free country than Sweden. Then Blackcat disagreed, whereafter I disagreed with Blackcat.

I can't see how this is off topic.

	31-10-2004 05:27									#97
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At any rate the reason Osama, if that is him, mentioned Sweden was probably because he spent a holiday there in his youth.

	31-10-2004 05:37									#98
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quote: Originally posted by Chemical Ollie In some aspects you are right, but we have many freedoms that Ámericans don't. Like taking a hike in the forest is not trespassing.

What are you talking about

	31-10-2004 05:45									#99
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber What are you talking about

In Sweden, you can go on private property without it to be considered trespassing (as long as you don't disturb the owner). This means you can go for a walk, or even do some free camping in the forest, even if the forest belongs to somebody.

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We have no fences saying "no trespassing", because land owners are not allowed to keep people out, except for their private residences.

But as I said before, I doubt this was the reason Osama mentioned Sweden. Rather the fact that we stopped invading other countries by 1815. We respect other people's freedom.

	31-10-2004 05:48									#101
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quote: Originally posted by Tripledoc You found an opportunity to take a dump on Sweden, because bin Laden had mentioned it for its freedom. Then I mentioned in defense of Sweden laws in Denmark which makes it a less free country than Sweden. Then Blackcat disagreed, whereafter I disagreed with Blackcat. I can't see how this is off topic.

I still disagree with you, but as a matter of fact, danish immigration law has very little to do with OBL even if he mentioned sweden, so it is off topic. If you think danish immigration law is interesting, then start a new thread. I'm sorry i answered (ishould hav known better , but i couldn't let it go by.

	31-10-2004 05:56									#102
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quote: Originally posted by Chemical Ollie We have no fences saying "no trespassing", because land owners are not allowed to keep people out, except for their private residences.

So private property isn't so private uh. Different strokes I suppose.

	31-10-2004 06:05									#103
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A much better outcome to all of this would have been for both candidates to agree not to respond at all to the video, but for either of them to have the decency or the balls to do that would be expecting too much I suppose.

	31-10-2004 06:06									#104
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber So private property isn't so private uh. Different strokes I suppose.

Private residences are private in all aspects of the word. You can't walk into people's garden. Forest and agricultural land is private in the sense that the owner has sole right to the income from crops grown on it. But it's forbidden by law to keep people from walking on the land as long as they don't do any harm to the crops. And wild berries, forest fungus etc, are free for all to pick.

	31-10-2004 06:15									#105
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber A much better outcome to all of this would have been for both candidates to agree not to respond at all to the video, but for either of them to have the decency or the balls to do that would be expecting too much I suppose.

Agreed.

However, I imagine Bush saw the video as a blessing, since it overshadowed the scandal of the Iraqi explosives. So Bush used it, as this news material can be favourable to him. I think Kerry would have preferred the Iraqi explosives to be the final news item before the election.

However, there is something to be milked from OBL as well (although it's not as beneficial as the explosives scandal), and besides, he cannot risk to look "soft on terror" just when OBL rears his ugly head back again.

	31-10-2004 06:18									#106
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quote: Originally posted by Chemical Ollie We have no fences saying "no trespassing", because land owners are not allowed to keep people out, except for their private residences. But as I said before, I doubt this was the reason Osama mentioned Sweden. Rather the fact that we stopped invading other countries by 1815. We respect other people's freedom.

I'm sure you respected other people's freedom when you continued to trade 10 million tons of iron ore a year with Nazi Germany.

	31-10-2004 06:24									#107
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker I'm sure you respected other people's freedom when you continued to trade 10 million tons of iron ore a year with Nazi Germany.

I'm sure the Nazi's just picked it up off the ground. You know free usuage of stuff and all

	31-10-2004 06:25									#108
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber I'm sure the Nazi's just picked it up off the ground. You know free usuage of stuff and all

	31-10-2004 10:48									#109
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quote: He should be since he is being held in a facility outside Washington and forced to produce tapes which then find their way to jeezie TV.

So you mean they artificially produce Goldstein's messages? That would mean the Two Minutes Hate mass media is a concocted scheme! So the entire Eurasian terror threat is artificial?

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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker I'm sure you respected other people's freedom when you continued to trade 10 million tons of iron ore a year with Nazi Germany.

When did America stop doing business with the Nazis?

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quote: YOU ARE TALKING TO THE GUY WHO WAITED IN LINE 17 HOURS OVERNIGHT WITH NO FOOD AND WATER TO VISIT REAGAN WHEN HE DIED.

Ted Striker

quote: we have many freedoms that Ámericans don't. Like taking a hike in the forest is not trespassing.

Can't you say that is less freedom? The person who owns the land is not allowed to use it as he sees fit. If he wants to keep people out, he should be able to.

quote: the fact that we stopped invading other countries by 1815. We respect other people's freedom.

And we appreciate how you respected the freedoms of the citizens of Nazi Germany by not helping to invade Germany during WW2 .

	31-10-2004 11:59									#112
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How much aid did you lend to the citizens of France in 1940?

	31-10-2004 12:08									#113
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Why would anyone want to visit the great evil that was Ronald Reagan?!

	31-10-2004 12:10									#114
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui And we appreciate how you respected the freedoms of the citizens of Nazi Germany by not helping to invade Germany during WW2 .

Sort of like locking up all Japanese in the US during WWII? What about Senator McCarthy? He surely was a freedom-loving sort of person, innit?

	31-10-2004 12:38									#115
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When was I arguing the US was always right? He said that Sweden respects other people's freedoms.

Everything's gotta turn into US bashing with you people .

Though by that measure... the lack of 'respect for people' that the PRC has could make a list that would break the server .

	31-10-2004 12:51									#116
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Why just today. . .

	31-10-2004 14:05									#117
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither When did America stop doing business with the Nazis?

Who cares?

I'm not the one trying to claim any sort of impossible, false moral high ground here, unlike some people.

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quote: YOU ARE TALKING TO THE GUY WHO WAITED IN LINE 17 HOURS OVERNIGHT WITH NO FOOD AND WATER TO VISIT REAGAN WHEN HE DIED.

Why didn't you just wait until he was buried? Then you could have spat and peed on his grave without being noticed.

I guess some people just couldn't wait....

	31-10-2004 14:14									#119
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That's not funny

	31-10-2004 14:49									#120
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Of course it is.

*spits on Reagan's grave*