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Should we de-autocensor ***?
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Don't censor it. Nobody uses it offensively anyway. 30 52.63%
Keep it censored. 10 17.54%
I don't care / banana 17 29.82%
Total: 57 voters 100%
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Ming is offline Ming
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Originally posted by Agathon
Isn't the question whether words which have dual uses should be banned.

As I noted earlier, "dick" used to be banned, but it was getting silly. I don't see an explosion of people using the word "dick" on the forums in response. It seems to me that c-u-m is the same. The only time I've seen it used is in the phrase "Magna *** laude".

No one is asking that **** or ***** be uncensored.

The mods can always ban people who use dual use words in the offensive manner.


Gee... somebody suggesting that mods should actually ban people

The owners are using the default settings for censored words. I think if somebody really sat down and took the time to go through the list, some of the "sillier" words would no longer be censored. But this does require time, and is not high on the owners LONG priority list. When a word like Dick comes up, they listened and made the quick change.

The key point is, the OWNERS want the censor turned on. That's their right, and people should respect their wishes. People who knowingly get around the censor by playing silly games are showing a total disrespect for the people who have spent a lot of time and effort to build Apolyton into a community where we want to come to. People who repeatedly do it get restricted, but everytime somebody does it, even once, they are really dissing the owners. And you should think about that before they do so

*because technically, we really don't have to warn you, we can just ban you for doing it even once

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Thus spoke Ming.

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Thus spoke Ming.


Watch your mouth!!!

oH, you weren't being clever?

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There is a forum where the censored words are substituted by "cool thing" and "very cool thing" depending on the word.


I used to visit a site that used the word "flour" IIRC.

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puts it all into perspective very quickly

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The decision has been made but I can still ***** about the autocensor and get a +1.

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Ming

Can you even use a substitute word vice *****, for censoring here at Apoly? I mean is it technically feasible?

Thanks

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The "very cool" replacements are funny. I think **** should be replaced with "All hail the ****ing MING!".

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Ming

Can you even use a substitute word vice *****, for censoring here at Apoly? I mean is it technically feasible?

Thanks


While this is not my area of expertise on the site, I think I remember hearing that it isn't a part of the normal software and would require a hack. Many extra features have been added to Apolyton via hacks. There probably is a hack already out there somewhere that does this feature. I would guess that it isn't a high priority for the owners

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Originally posted by conmcb25
I kind of wish we could change the auto censor.

Instead of getting a ***** when you type a censored word you get a substiture word.

For example instead of "b1tch", you get "pregnant dog".

Now that would be amusing

That's the ticket!


For T I T we could substitute "udder" such as "udder-for-tat" and "udder mouse,"

For Dick we could substitute "throbbing rod" such as "Throbbing Rod Cheney" and "spotted throbbing rod" for the dining table.

For the f word we could use "in and out" such as "in and out off" and "I'm going to in and out you up!"

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Fun times for all!

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The substitution of udder might work, but as Ming pointed out, it'd be a hack. Add it to MarkG's todo list.

The f-word comes from the German verb "to strike" so why not sub it out for "strike off" rather than getting too technical about it.

Richard has already been de-autocensored, there's really no need to change it, especially as that way, Farb, would be offensive to some parents.

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The f-word comes from the German verb "to strike" so why not sub it out for "strike off" rather than getting too technical about it.

Nah. Change it it to "hit" instead.

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The key point is, the OWNERS want the censor turned on. That's their right, and people should respect their wishes.


No one, least of all me, is saying that the censor should be turned off. It provides a useful function. There are times I don't want to see that .

On the other hand, dual use words can get annoying.

It's not a major deal, but what is in this forum?

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Whatthehell is 'Magna *** laude', and where is it ever used? If I ever encounter the word '***' it is only to do with the reason it is censored here. There aren't too many words I think are right to censor on a popular, public site like Apolyton, but this IS one of the few.

Good to see Dick is OK now, although it was kinda funny knowing that, no matter what the poster's professed opinions, everyone ALWAYS swore at the Bush Administration

Perhaps the auto-censor could have an option to be disabled for PLUS subscribers.....

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Whatthehell is 'Magna *** laude', and where is it ever used?


It's latin:

quote:
mag·na *** lau·de
adv. & adj.

With high honors. Used to express high academic distinction: graduated magna *** laude; 25 magna *** laude graduates.

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While I'm sure my 13 year old probably knows the word, I still don't want him looking up Civ strategy and coming across words he doesn't hear at home.

Sorry. I AM pro free speech, but this is a "family friendly" site.


What's so unfamily friendly about saying "Magna *** laude?" Do you forbid Latin in your home?

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What's so unfamily friendly about saying "Magna *** laude?" Do you forbid Latin in your home?


Absolutely. And any other vile South American language.

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Since when is Latin a South American language?

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Since when is Latin a South American language?

This must be the most spectcular one in the history of Apolyton. Well done Mercator

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I thought about that... But I'm afraid he's going to have a really smart retort to that.

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I think molly may just be making a quip. Unlike Dan Quayle who was serious.

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What, seriously? Or rather, not seriously?

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Since when is Latin a South American language?



I see that irony and modern history are both much appreciated on 'Poly's boards.

"I was recently on a tour of Latin America, and the only regret I have was that I didn't study Latin harder in school so I could converse with those people"

-- Vice President Dan Quayle


Even if it isn't true, it's so in character, it should be.

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What's so unfamily friendly about saying "Magna *** laude?" Do you forbid Latin in your home?




After my 9th grade Latin teacher, it has always been banned in my house! Man, I still hate her.

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When a word like Dick comes up,they listened and made the quick change.
I won't deny that they listened and made a change- but I thought that "dick" was still censored from 2000-2002 at the very least. So I wouldn't say... 'quick'

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heh, I just noticed *** was censored the other day. makes it look funny when someone wrote: ***-for-tat

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