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mrmitchell is offline mrmitchell
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Mostly I find playing with the LA Times election simulator fun.

Joncha, I bet my Apolyton avatar on AR being blue. That's a risk to take, but I'm still confident.

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****... 10 out of the 11 states that voted on whether to ban gay marriage / civil unions, voted to ban then . Discrimination

Stupid

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****... 10 out of the 11 states that voted on whether to ban gay marriage / civil unions, voted to ban then . Discrimination

Gay marriage was already banned in AR; this was just a constitutional addition.

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Alright, Florida is now at 95% reported and Wolf Blitzer keeps sputtering about absentee ballots. Bush has a 5% lead which amounts to about 300,000 votes.

Why the hell haven't they called the state? Miami Dade is at 94%! Bush has Central Florida!

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Nobody has the guts to call Oregon for Kerry or Florida for Bush yet. Someone on Fox News said Bush had it basically locked up, though.

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Nobody has the guts to call Oregon for Kerry or Florida for Bush yet.


Yeah no kidding, Fox is being ultra-conservative and CNN, for all their nifty analysis crap they've been droning on about, can't call it.

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Alright, Florida is now at 95% reported and Wolf Blitzer keeps sputtering about absentee ballots. Bush has a 5% lead which amounts to about 300,000 votes.

Why the hell haven't they called the state? Miami Dade is at 94%! Bush has Central Florida!



Apparently they haven't added in the early voters yet. That might be why.

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Joncha, I bet my Apolyton avatar on AR being blue. That's a risk to take, but I'm still confident.


If Bush wins I will switch my avatar to an aardvark.

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A question... after 2000, would YOU call Florida before it hits 98%, 99%, 100%? They are being ultra cautious because they got hit hard 4 years back.

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Bush has a 321,000 vote lead in FL. It's time for them to admit defeat.

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Wisconsin now 50% Kerry / 49% Bush....!

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Have faith, most of the highly democratic counties in Florida have not been counted, and they still have not added early voting which has heavily favored Kerry. Also, Kerry has been outperforming Gore for the most part in Florida.

Damn, I was all depressed about Bush being ahead while eating lunch, but if that is true then things look pretty good. There's hope yet...

And Penn goes Kerry

Reports of Republicans filling lots and lots of lawsuits to tie things him in Ohio and make the waiting long enough that people give up and leave...

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A question... after 2000, would YOU call Florida before it hits 98%, 99%, 100%? They are being ultra cautious because they got hit hard 4 years back.


but then there wasn't a 320000 difference....

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It has been clear for a while that Bush wins Florida. My guess is that he'll also wins Ohio, since he's had a stable ~5% lead since the start of the vote-counting process.

For Kerry, winning after that would demand a clear victory in the west coast (Oregon, Washington, Nevada) AND winning in NH and Hawaii AND a single surprise victory in a state such as Arizona, Missouri, Colorado or New Mexico (in the case of NM, it would be a tie -- > BUSH WINS)...

Like I presumed, Bush seems to be the winner here... I'll continue following this race for another 6 hours, still.

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Florida: 97% counted.
Still 5% difference in favor to Bush.

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Even if Kerry wins ohio...hes gotta run the tables in 3 states in order to win.

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BBC has officially called Florida for George W. Bush.

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I'm calling:

Republicans gain 5 house seats, 3 senate seats, keep the Presidency, and boot Daschle.

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No new picture, but the Mrmitchell Organization (TM) is giving Missouri to Bush but pulling NV back into the "Too Close To Call" column, depending on the outcome of early votes....FL remains Too Close for the same reason....major upset to Kerry in WI shows how feindishly awesome my prediction capabilities are.

When all precincts are counted, the result will be called for Ohio.

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By looks of the popular vote I think I called it right a week ago when I said Bush 52% Kerry 48%. Of course my "12ish" EV count is still in the air.

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Isn't there a rather big discrepancy between the exit polls and the hard votes in Florida?

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Yep. Exit polls suck. They're very inaccurate. Exit Polls are the reason that the media screwed up with FL last time.

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The networks probably don't want to call the entire race before Alaska gets finished voting, around 12:00am.

I think Hawaii is already done voting as they are marked "processing votes" on the CNN site.

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Ohio will be interesting. The Democrat areas had huge lines when the polls closed, and if you are in line when the polls 'close' you are allowed to vote. In one heavy Democratic area, they anticipated they will continue to vote until midnight!

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I thought voting in Hawaii was supposed to wrap up at 11 Eastern, but CNN has been saying it closed at 10. Could be I'm just mixed up because they don't observe Daylight Savings Time...

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Thune has a 2,108 vote lead against Daschle!

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Remember though, we are looking at hard votes here, not a poll taken outside the voting centers. These are real numbers now.

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Ohio will be interesting. The Democrat areas had huge lines when the polls closed, and if you are in line when the polls 'close' you are allowed to vote. In one heavy Democratic area, they anticipated they will continue to vote until midnight!


Also of note: only about half of the Cleveland area is in. Expect Kerry to make up at least another 110,000 there, plus another 25,000 in the Toledo area (only about half in).

Long way to go, gang.

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Hmm. Are you sure that the early votes haven't been counted in Florida? Is there any hope?

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Candy Crowley Reporting from Boston said the areas that have still to report in OH are big big Dem areas.

Don't give up!

 
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