03-11-2004 10:13									#241
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi We've seen Howard's end. Is this the end for Kerry?

How long have you been sitting on that pun?

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The blogs I have read have generally agreed that early voting has not been included, but of course, these are just blogs. I have not heard anything official from any of the news sources.

	03-11-2004 10:13									#243
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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer So does anybody have a definitive answer on the early voting?

Well, I'm not looking for one atm, but why have early voting and not count them until the end? That just doesn't make sense. "Okay, polls are closed, let's count those early voters."

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Some speculation locally that all the write-in votes (for county prosecutor) could have slowed down Hamilton County in Ohio. Also suburbs here have supposedly been voting late. One would think this would help Bush, though Kerry has actually doee pretty well here so far it seems.

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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi We've seen Howard's end. Is this the end for Kerry?

Not yet, but if he can't come back in Ohio, it will be. I played around with the LA Times thing and I couldn't find a realistic scenario where Kerry loses Ohio and still wins (I did find a couple of tie scenarios, which, of course, would mean Bush wins).

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FL has been clear for hours. Bush seems to be taking both Ohio and Florida with a ~52/48, winning electoral vote ~274/265, but he'll end up losing the popular vote to Kerry (California hasn't been counted yet...). Four more years, I say.

Kerry still has hope, huh?
If Kerry'll win this election anymore, I'll sign up as a volunteer to Iraq.

	03-11-2004 10:15									#247
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quote: Originally posted by monkspider More news on Florida, apparently there are still 1 million absentee ballots out there, and they are from mostly democrat areas. Florida may yet still be in play.

And, don't forget about the military vote.

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VJ, Ohio is getting tighter.

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The Mrmitchell Organization (TM) Report:

Apprently FL early votes have not been counted. Florida remains Too Close to Call!

Ohio will remain Too Close to Call for the foreseeable future.

NBC News reports that one of their polls said 27% of Americans support gay marriage and 35% of Americans support civil unions. That's almost 2/3 of the population--far from the "majority" that crazy religious extremists keep babbling about that are against gay rights.

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CNN says only 500,000 votes in Florida yet to be counted. VERY little chance Kerry could overtake. FL is over.

	03-11-2004 10:18									#251
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quote: Originally posted by monkspider More news on Florida, apparently there are still 1 million absentee ballots out there, and they are from mostly democrat areas. Florida may yet still be in play.

1. They need to vote 650k Kerry and 350k Bush, which is unlikely, even if they were all from Democrat areas.
2. Absentee ballot people are often military.
3. Most news networks have called FL already.

	03-11-2004 10:19									#252
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi We've seen Howard's end.

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Bush has about an 120,000 vote lead in Ohio so far with 70% of the vote counted.

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quote: How long have you been sitting on that pun?

Long enough.

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Kerry will regain 60,000 of that from Cuyahoga alone, but it might not be enough. If he loses OH, he's toast.

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How would the DNC handle a Bush victory and a Daschle defeat?

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CNN'a calling Florida Bush and PEnnsylvania Kerry. Ohio is to close to call.

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They would blame Halibourton and Karl Rove.

	03-11-2004 10:21									#259
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Read on another board Hamilton County only 31% reported so far. Bush is only leading slightly here (51-49) but could mean a larger percentage of the votes still out there are not in the northeast as has been speculated.

	03-11-2004 10:21									#260
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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer

You know Howard Dean is making ads for yahoo making fun of his own screem.

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Apparently Cuyahoga also still has 30% out there or so. Good for Kerry.

	03-11-2004 10:22									#262
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Mrmitchell Organization (TM) guidelines:

NH for Kerry if 90% reporting continues to show a lead for him of over 50,000 votes

IA, MN, WI, MI, NV, NM when 90% reporting shows a lead consistent with typical poll responses from that state

FL, OH when hell freezes over

AR when Kerry wins it

	03-11-2004 10:22									#263
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MSNBC just called Colorado for Bush.

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* Kassiopeia listens to The Imperial March

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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc How would the DNC handle a Bush victory and a Daschle defeat?

Hopefully, it'll kill the liberal faction. I hear there is a plane leaving for Europe at any minute.

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Only 6% of Washtenaw County (Ann Arbor and environs) has reported in Michigan; expect it to go on the order of 70-30 for Kerry. That's another solid 100,000 net gain or so. Plus, Wayne County (Detroit) is only halfway in; another 250,000 or so net gain there.

As expected, Michigan will Go Blue!

	03-11-2004 10:26									#267
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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer Only 6% of Washtenaw County (Ann Arbor and environs) has reported in Michigan; expect it to go on the order of 70-30 for Kerry. That's another solid 100,000 net gain or so. Plus, Wayne County (Detroit) is only halfway in; another 250,000 or so net gain there. As expected, Michigan will Go Blue!

I think most of the North will go for Kerry.

	03-11-2004 10:27									#268
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Ohio is to close to call.

Bush +3 w/ 72% counted.

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	03-11-2004 10:27									#269
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Bush's lead is increasing in Ohio.

If Ohio falls, then Bush wins, obviously...

	03-11-2004 10:28									#270
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All Bush has to do to win now is win Ohio and New Mexico, and he is in the lead in both States.