10-11-2004 22:00									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian My point, Boshko, is if there is a rash of Koreans who come over here to give birth and thus get citizenship for their kids, the US government might react and attempt to curtail such activity. -Arrian

And to curtail that problem, the US government could deny visas to obviously pregnant women, but what danger is posed by men, elderly women or children...

Then again, we are talking about US immigration. They probably couldn't tell the difference between a pregnant woman and an old man.

The new visa rules apply to Hong Kong people, even to people travelling in transit.

No loss for me, but the American airlines and the Americans working for the airlines are the ones paying the price. A couple of the airlines are on the verge of bankruptcy and the loss of international fares is one reason for the financial troubles.

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quote: And to curtail that problem, the US government could deny visas to obviously pregnant women, but what danger is posed by men, elderly women or children... Then again, we are talking about US immigration. They probably couldn't tell the difference between a pregnant woman and an old man.

Yeah, like I told Boshko, never did I say that the US government's response was intelligent.

-Arrian

	10-11-2004 23:12									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin We really need to sign an open visa program with the EU and Canada which would allow the citizens of any member country to work or live in other member countries.

Amen!

	10-11-2004 23:19									#64
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To most of the thread- I only find it instrestng because someone I have spoken to, and an organization in the district my boss represents are noted in the article.

	11-11-2004 01:14									#65
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quote: Originally posted by GePap

We all need to find a new smilie for you. Your seriously wearing that one out

	11-11-2004 01:16									#66
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Yep hes been heavy on the of late and neglecting his old fall back

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is better than in expressing the feeling of "wow, this thread is really crappy overall". Of course, I could always start using or more often.

	11-11-2004 01:44									#68
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quote: Originally posted by GePap is better than in expressing the feeling of "wow, this thread is really crappy overall". Of course, I could always start using or more often.

How about you do that. I'm sure we would all appreciate a new way for you to show us your disdain for our posts. It must be so hard coexisting with us mere mortals.

	11-11-2004 01:50									#69
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Because the New York Times feels like it has to apologize for America. I find such stuff odious.

Why? Somebody really has to apologize for America...

And they already started doing it.

	11-11-2004 01:54									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Alex Somebody really has to apologize for America...

Why? No one likes a snivelling apologist.

	11-11-2004 01:56									#71
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No one likes a snivelling apologizer, either.

	11-11-2004 02:05									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Alex Why? Somebody really has to apologize for America... And they already started doing it.

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quote: Why? No one likes a snivelling apologist.

	11-11-2004 02:19									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber How about you do that. I'm sure we would all appreciate a new way for you to show us your disdain for our posts. It must be so hard coexisting with us mere mortals.

HA!

	11-11-2004 02:35									#75
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quote: Originally posted by DanS No one likes a snivelling apologizer, either.

Damn!

English is a b1tch! Maybe I'll learn it one day.

	11-11-2004 03:35									#76
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Immigration laws should definitely be loosened

It's a loss for America when people leave it

	11-11-2004 03:41									#77
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quote: Originally posted by Boshko Well its been harder and harder to become a legal immigrant. A couple international students in my University had their student visas yanked while they were home for the summer and couldn't attend classes. Situations like those and my gf annoy the hell out of me, and if the ****ing IRISH are having a hard time becomming legal immigrants to the US something is definately wrong.

Its much, MUCH easier for illegal immigrants to enter and work in the US than it is to legally immigrate here. Why should the government encourage legal immigration when its already dedicated to unlimited, cheap illegal immigration coming accross the Southern Border. Did any of you read the Time magazine article a month or two ago on illegal immigration? Frightening.

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quote: Originally posted by Asher To be fair, $100,000 of that likely went to his union.

don't be dissin' unions

	11-11-2004 05:35									#79
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Hmmmm, I'm 8th generation Australian, my ancestor came out here from Dublin in 1825 - unbelievably, I just found this detail about Dublin out today from the man at the Post Office who served me and turned out to be my second cousin!!!

The truth is people have always been going backwards and forwards between the old and new country.

We still call ourselves Irish but 8 generations is a long stretch.

	11-11-2004 06:05									#80
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin How come El Al, the Israeli national airline hasn't ever had a highjacking but they spend hardly any more money on security then major western airlines have in any year since 9/11? They profile that's why. It works to since El Al has never had a highjacking dispite being an obvious terrorist target.

Once again, the Constitution comes into play. I doubt any judge would say stopping all people who were a certain race would be a reasonable search and seizure with probable cause.

	11-11-2004 09:17									#81
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber How about you do that. I'm sure we would all appreciate a new way for you to show us your disdain for our posts. It must be so hard coexisting with us mere mortals.

	11-11-2004 09:30									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Boshko Those pregnant Koreans come over to the US completely legally.

I don't know about RoK, here they don't give out visitor visas to women who are pregnant for five months or more.

	11-11-2004 09:59									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Asher To be fair, $100,000 of that likely went to his union.

FYI: Dues are typically 1%.

	11-11-2004 12:04									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger I don't know about RoK, here they don't give out visitor visas to women who are pregnant for five months or more.

We're on slightly nicer terms with Korea than China

	11-11-2004 13:51									#85
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber Kick all the Irish out. Except those of us that came over before the 1800s

That includes my family, so I'm in.

	11-11-2004 13:59									#86
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I hear Nova Scotia is arranging tug boats to move the Statue of Liberty to a more appropriate home in Halifax harbour.

Good or bad idea? Comments?

	11-11-2004 14:02									#87
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quote: Originally posted by DanS I hear ya, Oerdin. But it would be a very lopsided proposition for a while. I know several Europeans who are trying to get into the US on a permanent basis and none going the other way to Europe, even though I know a heck of a lot more Americans than Europeans. I'm of the same opinion about the benefits to both of us, although I would strongly prefer that they become US citizens.

A lot of the one-way demand has to do with proficiency in a foreign language. Many Americans just aren't proficient in foreign languages like French, German, English...

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But if the French and Germans are proficient in English, then the problem is solved.

	12-11-2004 05:08									#89
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And to think that President Bush is not going to do anything serious about illegal immigration.

Instead, he wants to give ILLEGAL immigrants, jobs.

	12-11-2004 05:16									#90
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun And to think that President Bush is not going to do anything serious about illegal immigration. Instead, he wants to give ILLEGAL immigrants, jobs.

His plan makes some sense if I understand it correctly. You get them to make themselves known, improve the economy, pay taxes for a few years and then get deported.