12-11-2004 02:03									#1
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I started out loving Spain and Austria but these two were so powerful that it took much of the fun out of the game. So I moved on to playing second tier powers like Venice, Denmark, and Novgorod. These were more challenging but still became predictable even with the AI on the hardest setting thus I once again had to move on.

Now I'm trying nonEuropean powers like Ethiopia and Rajputana. They are hair pullingly hard to play well unless you cheat or loan shark but they aren't impossible. Try being the only Hindu state completely surrounded by richer & larger muslim states. That's fun but not my favorite.

No, that honor would have to go to either Byzantium or Suizdul. Both of these are small powers with big potential to become major powers if properly played though the road will not be an easy one.Next I think I will try a Kingdom of Jerusalem game (I've never actually finish a KoJ game) or maybe a game as Crimea. If I really wanted to punish myself I could conquor the Crimea as Genea and convert it to Catholicism before releasing the Crimea. The goal would be to conquor all the mongol cultured proviences and convert them before the end of the game. Any what that's one of my ideas for the future.

	12-11-2004 03:08									#2
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Serbia all the way

	12-11-2004 03:13									#3
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Bavaria is kinda fun. One of the more minor French ones can be challenging.

	12-11-2004 05:55									#4
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At the moment I'm trying Navarra.
Nations i still haven't tried (but hope to someday) -

Denmark/Sweden, Savoy, Aragon, Prussia, + many others ...
Sooo much to choose from.

	12-11-2004 14:39									#5
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The Small German Sub-countries are the most fun.

	12-11-2004 16:19									#6
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In 1.05, Ottomans and Byzantium is the favourites.
In thje latest patch(silly Paradox made the game much more difficult), Byzantium is unfortunately out of the question for my skills, so I usually play medium to great powers, no particular favourite.

	12-11-2004 23:28									#7
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Malacca was fun- I set up an Indonesian colonial empire.

Of the Huge powers, China I think gives you the biggest challange, not from outside, but come the nasty internal collapse.

	13-11-2004 00:16									#8
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I have a penchant for Savoy, for some inextricable reason.

	13-11-2004 01:18									#9
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Novgorod without being a bad boy. I capture only core provinces. I also knew the guy who've conquered whole world as Trapezund (sp?).

	13-11-2004 01:56									#10
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Actually playing my first time as Byzantium, and I'm pretty sure it'll stay my favourite even after I've tried others.
It starts very small, in a VERY difficult situation (entirely surrounded by an hostile power quite more powerful than itself...), has an extremely glorious past, and can have a bright future.

I think I'll love France too, but it'll probably be partially because of some nationalistic love ^^

quote: Originally posted by Nikolai In 1.05, Ottomans and Byzantium is the favourites. In thje latest patch(silly Paradox made the game much more difficult), Byzantium is unfortunately out of the question for my skills, so I usually play medium to great powers, no particular favourite.

What are the changes that were made to make the game more difficult ?

	13-11-2004 03:42									#11
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Venice and Persia are the biz.

	14-11-2004 10:58									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Serb Novgorod without being a bad boy. I capture only core provinces. I also knew the guy who've conquered whole world as Trapezund (sp?).

I read that thread and found it to be very interesting. Unfortunately, I don't think he could do the same in 1.08 as things have been made much harder.

	14-11-2004 11:01									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Akka What are the changes that were made to make the game more difficult ?

They have a huge list of changes just look at www.europa-universalis.com

	16-11-2004 22:17									#14
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France or Russia.

yes its pretty easy playing with them but I have lots of fun anyways.

	18-11-2004 03:45									#15
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I like France.

I tried playing as Wallachia, so that I could be Vlad the Impaler, but it was too hard.

	18-11-2004 03:49									#16
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France

	19-11-2004 01:35									#17
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Venice!
And Papal states.

	19-11-2004 04:52									#18
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Ottomans, Venice, Sweden, and Brandenburg.

Yes, I usually prefer playing the mid-size powers.

	19-11-2004 11:44									#19
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Ottomans are far from mid-size...

	19-11-2004 16:56									#20
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Sweden is big as well

	19-11-2004 18:32									#21
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Lorraine!

-=Vel=-

	19-11-2004 19:49									#22
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Surprise!

	19-11-2004 19:50									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson Sweden is big as well

It's mid size as in power, not vastness. But they are actually close there too...

	19-11-2004 20:11									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Nikolai Ottomans are far from mid-size...

Well, Ottomans starts with only a handful of provinces.
Aren't you thinking of the Mameluks ?

(what's the joke with Velocyrix playing Lorraine ?)

	20-11-2004 02:42									#25
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I think He's made a thread about his Lorraine game once?
Or/and claimed that lorraine is the best, because it has both German and French culture?
hm...

Sweden, as someone claimed (I don't know) is enough big, has good strategical position, and a lot of good generals.

	20-11-2004 04:48									#26
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He's been known for his great love for Lorraine since EU1.

Akka: No, I think of the OE. Having few provinces does not disqualify for great power status, it's the easiness and especially the potetial that counts. OE is one of the easiest countries to play in EU2, you are almost doomed to become a great power with it.

	20-11-2004 17:56									#27
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Sweden is a major power in EU2, especially with a human player the helm.

	20-11-2004 19:35									#28
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England is a good nation to play as, but the island status means you can't get the contiguous territories bonus (or rather non-contiguous territory penalty)

	20-11-2004 20:31									#29
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	20-11-2004 20:49									#30
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There is a 10% income penalty for territories without land connections to the capital.

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