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Rufus T. Firefly
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is one way of saying it, though I prefer "mensch"
Sep 2000 time: 07:19
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
You know that you have my utmost respect AH, but I don't really follow your logic on this one. Who exactly are Bush supporters supposed to fear? Most of the Bush opponents are losers and/or pussies... |
Required reading in the aftermath of the US election should be Richard Hofstadter's The Paranoid Style in American Politics. He explained all this back in the 1960's, and the analysis hasn'really changed all that much.
Bush supporters -- at least the ones in the pictures AH is talking about -- fear modernity, and rightly.
They fear a world in which rich, successful countries are secular, and poor, backwards countries are fervently religious...because where does that leave them?
They fear an America in which the only jobs left require either extensive, quality education or the ability to work the deep fryer...because where does that leave them?
There fear that the fundamental promise of America -- that if you work hard, you'll get ahead, and your children will do even better than you did -- is pretty much over...and where does that leave them?
They fear their own invisibility, because in the wider popular culture they are either invisible or objects of ridicule. Movies and TV are full of people with education, high paying jobs, glamorous wardrobes, who are more likely to be seen at a gay nightclub than in a church. They, by contrast, are represented only as the foils of Paris Hilton and Nicole Ritchie, or as the guests on Jerry Springer. So where does that leave them?
They fear that the world, especially the West, and more especially America, is headed in directions with which they fundamentally disagree. They know that they are powerless to stop it, because all the decisions are being made by people -- of whatever ideological bent -- who are fundamentally unlike them. And they know, deep down, that even Bush is not going to make their lives one tiny bit better, or at all stop their collective downward slides (jobs are going to keep getting outsourced, health care is not going to get more affordable, high-paying blue-collar jobs are not coming back, etc.).
They should be frightened. The world is passing them by, they're living on borrowed time, and they know it.
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Ted Striker
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United States of America
Jan 1970 time: 21:19
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quote: Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
Required reading in the aftermath of the US election should be Richard Hofstadter's The Paranoid Style in American Politics. He explained all this back in the 1960's, and the analysis hasn'really changed all that much.
Bush supporters -- at least the ones in the pictures AH is talking about -- fear modernity, and rightly.
They fear a world in which rich, successful countries are secular, and poor, backwards countries are fervently religious...because where does that leave them?
They fear an America in which the only jobs left require either extensive, quality education or the ability to work the deep fryer...because where does that leave them?
There fear that the fundamental promise of America -- that if you work hard, you'll get ahead, and your children will do even better than you did -- is pretty much over...and where does that leave them?
They fear their own invisibility, because in the wider popular culture they are either invisible or objects of ridicule. Movies and TV are full of people with education, high paying jobs, glamorous wardrobes, who are more likely to be seen at a gay nightclub than in a church. They, by contrast, are represented only as the foils of Paris Hilton and Nicole Ritchie, or as the guests on Jerry Springer. So where does that leave them?
They fear that the world, especially the West, and more especially America, is headed in directions with which they fundamentally disagree. They know that they are powerless to stop it, because all the decisions are being made by people -- of whatever ideological bent -- who are fundamentally unlike them. And they know, deep down, that even Bush is not going to make their lives one tiny bit better, or at all stop their collective downward slides (jobs are going to keep getting outsourced, health care is not going to get more affordable, high-paying blue-collar jobs are not coming back, etc.).
They should be frightened. The world is passing them by, they're living on borrowed time, and they know it. |

Man, that was one of the best posts ever.
The common theme: fear
The part that is the most promising: borrowed time
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Wycoff
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Most Northerners didn't oppose slavery, they opposed the expansion of slavery. They wanted to keep the west white man's land, free of blacks. Most poor Southerners didn't care about slavery one way or another. They didn't own slaves, they couldn't afford to. That's why West Virginia borke away from Virginia, and thats why the Appalachian south was largely unionist. Poor Southerners thought blacks were inferior, but so did almost everyone else. The only people who really cared about defending slavery were the rich Southern plantation owners, whose way of life depended on slavery. They wanted to extend into the territories because if geographic limitations on slavery would ultimately lead to limitations on the political power of the Southern plantation owner. That map is meaningless if you're referring to Civil War attitudes on racial tolerance or equality.
Last edited by Wycoff on 14-11-2004 at 11:23
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Wycoff
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker
Bollocks
The war was fought technically to oppose the rebellion but the spirit of it came alive when it became the cause to end slavery |
... as read from the perspective of someone from the 21st century
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