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Az is offline Az
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I know a girl in her upper 20s who look just like that so bugger off


Sure you do.

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But the face screams "I'm a vulgar slut that paints herself with bad make-up".


No no. It screams "I was born a man".

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No no. It screams "I was born a man".




At least the girl posted by Combat Ingrid doesn't screm anything like that

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No, she's screaming "human trafficking"

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Norwegian women skiers, especially those in tight suits not going terribly fast past the camera, and stuff

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No, she's screaming "human trafficking"

Party pooper

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No, she's screaming "human trafficking"

Party pooper

You just equated Gangerolf with Heide Klum's boobs ...

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Uh, there are better picks of Jennifer out there.

But I don't want to get in trouble with Ming.

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Yeah, there are some good-looking athletes. Well, those who aren't too anorectic. I particularily remember a Finnish skigirl, don't remember her name though. Haven't seen her since the great doping scandal of '01 (or was it '02? '00?).


Spiffor, sorry. Just my initial reaction.

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Spiffor, sorry. Just my initial reaction.

No problem. No matter what her face screams, I'll still consider her the most attractive girl shown in this thread

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The Aussie? I'd have to see her when she isn't smiling. Some women just look better when they aren't smiling...

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I found this in the dictionary under "beauty"


Brooke Burke is in this month's Playboy. meh.

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Boshko,

I just feel that e.g. women from Japan who are presented for male viewing pleasure on the web are generally more natural looking, unspoiled looking if you will, than their traditional Western counterparts.

That's because there's often a bigger obsession with young girls in Japan and the beauty standards center on a "look" that's more young/innocent looking than western beauty standards. For example the Barbies marketed in Japan look younger than American Barbies. This doesn't mean that this kind of beauty standard isn't any more phony and annoying that what you're complaining about, its often worse especially when it sometimes borders on pedophilia.

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Koreans have better teeth

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Yellow Fever

Ya, there's a lot of freaky yellow-fever infested waygookin over here too.

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Ya, there's a lot of freaky yellow-fever infested waygookin over here too.


Oh that's nice.

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Oh that's nice.

No, not really.

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"Waygookin"? What an unwieldly word. "Gaijin" rolls off the tongue so much better...

BTW, am I the only one who finds these threads where Poly posters claim that they wouldn't bang any number of models or actresses to be hilarious? You're not fooling anyone...

ps. Miss Australia is the ****ing bomb!

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"Waygookin"? What an unwieldly word. "Gaijin" rolls off the tongue so much better...

BTW, am I the only one who finds these threads where Poly posters claim that they wouldn't bang any number of models or actresses to be hilarious? You're not fooling anyone...

ps. Miss Australia is the ****ing bomb!

Well waygookin means "other country people" more or less, just waygook is a bit easier...

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You know, while Heidi's beauty is debatable, I really do not understand the attraction of Angelina at all. Everybody seems to love her, both men and women...


Not me.

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So have we all decided that blond haired, blue eyed, nordic girls are hot?

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I've decided it pisses some people off if I come clean and say I like Japanese girls.

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One of the reasons I moved away from Latvia is that I am sick of whitey girls. Bring on the world!

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We have girls from all over out here in California but I find myslef dating more blondes then anything else. We all have our prefrences.

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I've decided it pisses some people off if I come clean and say I like Japanese girls.

No, winston, it's the way it's being said.

Liking asians because they're exotic and different, well... Even if you don't have a case of yellow fever, is what it certainly reads as at a faint level.

Yes, exoticism can lend a certain allure and attraction, but at a certain point--one that occurs all to often--it ends up seeming as if the Asian female is boxed into a specific stereotype and that the male is more attracted to a purported Asian "ideal" rather than the woman herself.

That's the danger of yellow fever.

admittedly, the problem with diagnosing it without actually seeing it in action is that first off, there's nothing wrong with cross-ethnic matchups. those should, after all, be encouraged. however, there are enough cases of it and how it's portrayed that often times it's easier to assume that someone might be touched with it rather than not.

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I just feel that e.g. women from Japan who are presented for male viewing pleasure on the web are generally more natural looking, unspoiled looking if you will, than their traditional Western counterparts.

If you're referring to Japanese porn, then yes, maybe their enhancements are a bit less grotesque or absurd, but the flip side is the porn can be a lot more degrading and more about power. Not only that, it also seems to be fixated on much younger-looking women than western pornography.

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I also find most of the Japanese girls and women I've been looking at to be stunningly beautiful with a lot of positive radiance to them.

"Stunningly beautiful", "positive radiance"... what does that mean? Granted, I could be reading too much into it... but it certainly sounds like you're letting the fact that they're Japanese, Asian, exotic give them an aura that, well, is different.

so, which do you prefer? the fiery and dominating dragon-lady? or the demure and submissive cherry blossom?

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Yes, I think you're reading too much into it. I'd actually never heard the term "yellow fever" before it was brought up here, but of course I could instantly figure out what was meant by it...

To me, it's a matter of voyeuristic preference , nothing more than that. Though I still don't fully see the problem if it were more than that..

I don't feel I'm obsessed with women or girls outside my own cultural sphere. Heck, I don't even think I'm obsessed with women or girls at all! I just like to look at them every once in a while.

Was it Groucho Marx who said that women were like elephants, they're fun to look at, but he'd never want to live with one.

Now that may be overstating things just a little, but just to give you an idea of the level of interest we're talking about here.

That being said, as to your last question, cherry blossoms are nice. I don't know where the submissive part enters into it, and the meaning of the word semure escapes me.

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So have we all decided that blond haired, blue eyed, nordic girls are hot?


That's the reason why I want to move away from here... I'm soo tired of them

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I don't know where the submissive part enters into it, and the meaning of the word semure escapes me.

word should have been demure, and it's corrected. bah asdf.

and one needs to look no further than miss saigon or madame butterfly to see a sterling example of orientalism and the wilting asian flower.

of course, the point of that final question was to underscore the two leading stereotypes of asian women.

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Maybe you need to put a little less emphasis on stereotypes and attempting to promptly diagnose people with terrible diseases then.

I really should have caught that semure/demure thing myself...

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That's the reason why I want to move away from here... I'm soo tired of them


send them my way.

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and one needs to look no further than miss saigon or madame butterfly to see a sterling example of orientalism and the wilting asian flower.

Who all then later become ajummas of the sharp elbows of course

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BTW, am I the only one who finds these threads where Poly posters claim that they wouldn't bang any number of models or actresses to be hilarious?


They're a lot skinnier and bonier in reality.

 
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