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Aw come on, Oerdin. Don't tell me you haven't been wanting to give that kinky sex with knives running across your shivering naked flesh

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I'm not saying she's not nuts, I'm just saying she's hot. That's all.

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Angelina Jolie is a complete nutcase. Who the hell in their right mind wears vials of bllod around their neck?


I for one would be prepared to overlook certain things for a shot at her

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here's how I like my mate:

I like the type that have at least 100 hours of play. I like the role playing type. I prefer to take it on bymself, but occasionally I like to have others assist me.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Selma Hayek is also

But no Jennifer Connelly?



Ah, now I remember who she is. She's very hot.


are latin american women considered western?

I never have. So I don't consider Salma a western ideal.

but definately very hittable.

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quote:
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Angelina Jolie is a complete nutcase. Who the hell in their right mind wears vials of bllod around their neck?


that's my kind of woman

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quote:
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Thin women


Defintley a photoshopped pic but it does make a good point.

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Angelina Jolie is a complete nutcase. Who the hell in their right mind wears vials of bllod around their neck?


actually I just thought of something cooler than a chick wearing a vial of my blood around her neck. A chick wearing a vial of a certain other of my bodily fluids around her neck. You can guess which one. Now- that'd be cool as ****.

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Defintley a photoshopped pic but it does make a good point.


No, it's not. I remember seeing it at the time they were shooting it, but I don't remember what it was for.

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actually I just thought of something cooler than a chick wearing a vial of my blood around her neck. A chick wearing a vial of a certain other of my bodily fluids around her neck. You can guess which one. Now- that'd be cool as ****.


Ah the famed pearl necklace eh?

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actually I just thought of something cooler than a chick wearing a vial of my blood around her neck. A chick wearing a vial of a certain other of my bodily fluids around her neck. You can guess which one. Now- that'd be cool as ****.

what's so cool about having a vial of saliva?

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Ah the famed pearl necklace eh?

pearls aren't bodily fluids.

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Hello? This thread isn't supposed to be about women's mental qualities.

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In any case: Diss, you missed the point. It's not about ethnicity, but about looks, and supposed different standards in different societies.

Jeniffer Connelly is very good looking, btw.

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Interesting the consensus.

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are latin american women considered western?

I never have. So I don't consider Salma a western ideal.


Umm, Latinos certainly are part of the West.

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quote:
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here's how I like my mate:



Or: why you haven't found a mate

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Az is right Dis, this thread is about the western "ideal", meaning what features we currently imagine to equal beauty in women- women of any ethnicity can have these features- for example, I would consider several Chinese actresses to most certainly meet the western ideal of beauty with their features.

That said, some groups of women I have never seen approach the western ideal, such as Australian Aborigene women.

Lets als remember that the ideal changes- in the 20's a boyish figure was in, while in victorian times and before a tan equalled being poor- after all, part of why snow white was so fair was by being as white as snow- today we would say she needed some color.

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Now, are we discussing beauty or sexiness? Not the same thing I think.

For example, I do think Angelina Jolie is incredibly HOT- I mean, DAMN! At the same time, I think Natalie Portman is beautiful but I don't find her particularly sexy.

I find there to be a difference- I don't know if everyone else does. In fact, A woman can be "plain" and still be sexy- that is the difference I think came up earlier with the issue of a woman being plain and having large breasts. A woman with a plain face but a vey curvy body can be very sexy, and still be nowhere near beautiful.

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Hell, a woman can be ugly and sexy at the same time. Sexy is a matter of attitude more than anything else. Consider Mae West and Sandra Bernhardt. Neither woman would be considered attractive, but they work hard with what they've got.

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That Connelly chick looks pretty normal to me. Well except for the Brezhnevian eyebrows.

Nicole Kidman has what I'd consider a near perfect face.

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Alyssa Milano

Though the best looking girls IMHO is:
Kristin Kreuk
Kelly Hu
Tatyana Ali

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Ah the famed pearl necklace eh?

pearls aren't bodily fluids.


Technically, I suppose. However 'pearl necklace' is actually a slang reference to something else more of bodily fluids.

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Technically, I suppose. However 'pearl necklace' is actually a slang reference to something else more of bodily fluids.


i had figured my comment about saliva would have suggested that the post was tongue-in-cheek...

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Ah well, I don't like having strangers' tongue in my cheek

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Hey, it's me!


Well, in that case, I forgive you.

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I'm also apparently a cheap bugger, domai-wise. I don't subscribe to the site like you do, I just got some pictures from newsgroups and I haven't browsed them all yet.


What, me, pay? They have a free newsletter with pictures. And heck, I haven't even subscribed to it, I just read it on their website. I suppose you haven't read their philosophy either then, if you got them from newsgroups? You should. Everyone should.

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Ah well, I don't like having strangers' tongue in my cheek

well, imho, it's all a matter of how it's done, and it's quite difficult to do well.

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That's why, more and more, I'm looking to Japan and other places outside the Western sphere of influence, "beauty"-wise, for a little eye candy and light entertainment...

East Asia outside of the sphere of western fashion? East Asia not having wierd beauty standards. That's rich

I've seen girls on the subway with enough makeup to look like clowns And then there's the wonderful tall while frilly boots and white mini skirts (in winter!).

But it seems that people here aren't generally as incompetant at make-up application as Westerners.

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I suppose you haven't read their philosophy either then, if you got them from newsgroups? You should. Everyone should.


Ok, I promise I'll visit the site one of these days. When I feel I'm in a philosophical mood.

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I heard that Cantonese women love to get it on. This was from an acquintance with a huge fetish for Asian women.

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Boshko,

I just feel that e.g. women from Japan who are presented for male viewing pleasure on the web are generally more natural looking, unspoiled looking if you will, than their traditional Western counterparts.

The complaints I listed in my opening post about body structure, tattoos and breast implants etc., simply aren't even an issue in the Japanese modelling tradition, as far as I've surveyed it.

I also find most of the Japanese girls and women I've been looking at to be stunningly beautiful with a lot of positive radiance to them.

Japan

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