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Oerdin is offline Oerdin
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It seems the guys who make EU, EU2, Victoria, Crusader Kings, and all have just bought the rights to the Civ franchise. Do any of you see massive changes making Civ more like EU2?

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If only...

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Firaxis has the rights to EU2???!!!

When did this disaster happen??

What happened to Paradox, and ... and .... ... what happened to Paradox?

... :extreme distress in dire need of medication:

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Originally posted by flippin' Oerdin in the flippin' OT thread about Atari selling the flippin' Civ franchise!
Ok, so I mixed things up.




Too bloody right you did!

Scared the living beejeesus out of me for a moment there ...

Nikolai is offline Nikolai
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  Old Post 25-11-2004 14:28
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Whoah! You must not scare me like this! Paradox is supreme, Firaxis is good, but together I'm afraid they'd have problems, the games' too different.

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Hang on. What is this really? Paradox bought Civ, Firaxis bought EU, Firaxis somehow didn't HAVE civ already and bought it, or nothing at all?

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This is all too confusing.

Who extactly bought the rights to CIV?

Lets start there first and foremost.

Nikolai is offline Nikolai
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  Old Post 25-11-2004 21:57
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AFAIK, noone knows. But it certainly wasn't Paradox.

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  Old Post 26-11-2004 05:39
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I was thinking of EU..is it worth it or not?

Gramps

I ask because sometimes when a company sells out it goes downhill

Gramps

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EU(2) is certainly worth it.

Oerdin (curse his very name!) just got the wrong company and scared some of us.
Atari apparently sold the license to Civilization. I'm not sure anyone really knows to whom.

Nothing to do with Paradox or any of the games they produce apparently, other than some (rather far-fetched) speculation that Paradox may have bought it.

Agathon is offline Agathon
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EU2 is a fantastic game.

I hope Victoria is, but Virtual Programming seem to have messed up with my order.

I'm sure they'll sort it out soon.

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Ok, sorry. Mixed up companies.

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EU2 is a fantastic game.

I hope Victoria is, but Virtual Programming seem to have messed up with my order.

I'm sure they'll sort it out soon.


Vicky is pretty cool, but you definately need the VIP mod. It's also pretty complex, and the manual ain't fer **** and there's no tutorial.

If you wanna learn you have to go to the forums, pick a subject, read up on it, play the game a little bit, then go back to the forums and pick a new subject. The most important thing to learn is POP management, and I haven't figured it out yet.

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Well, VP have fixed their problems and I am downloading the game now. Guess I won't be posting much tonight.

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Ok, sorry. Mixed up companies.


VP do the mac ports of paradox games.

They do a pretty good job.

What sucks is that I have to leave to attend a boring talk on Aristotle.

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  Old Post 27-11-2004 00:30
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EU2 is a fantastic game.

I hope Victoria is, but Virtual Programming seem to have messed up with my order.

I'm sure they'll sort it out soon.


ok maybe someone could help then..I have d/l the demo for Axis & Allies and its a fairly decent game thus far, I understand its a demo and will try to play more....

Is EU (or EU2) similiar?

I am asking because I enjoy varying sorts of games PBEM and sometimes MP for CTP/CIVIII Conquests but I enjoy also games like RON and AOEII:Conquerors as well as C & C Generals Zero Hour and also Empiresawn of the Modern World ..

I read and heard about EU2 just trying to get more feedback is all

Thanks

Gramps

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Well I decided to post because I only managed to get halfway through the Victoria manual.

Try looking for an EUII demo.

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There's no demo of any Paradox game, since it's too easy to make a demo into a full game.

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The best way of describing EUII is that it is a real time version of old classic strategy boardgames (like the Axis and Allies boardgame from the mid eighties).

It runs from 1419-1820 and there are various starting points along that way allowed (for example the Napoleonic Wars has its own campaign). I, like many people, prefer to play the grand campaign (the whole thing).

You play a country and are responsible for everything. You can play any country you like, although the European countries are most fun. The combat, exploration, economic and especially the diplomatic models are much more developed than those in the Civ series.

You will find yourself constrained by exactly the same sort of problems as faced real rulers. For example, the alliance system is very realistic and you really need to think carefully about who you ally yourself with. For most countries alliances are necessary, otherwise you will find yourself being ganged up on.

Conquering other countries by military force is possible, although very difficult, since the rest of the world quickly paints you as a warmonger and will set out to cut you down to size. It is often more effective to annex countries by diplomatic means (gifts, royal marriages, vassalization).

Exploration is a lot of fun. Once you receive Explorers/Conquistadors, the rest of the world is open for colonization and exploitation. Wars between rival colonial powers can be very rewarding from a gameplay point of view.

It is certainly worth your money and it is probably best to start with EUII before playing Victoria or Hearts of Iron, which are much more complicated games.

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Thanks for the feedback

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EU2 is much more complicated than HOI.

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I liked EU2 much more then HOI because EU2 is more complicated.

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I liked EU2 much more then HOI because EU2 is more complicated.


umm..when I went looking no one had it..is this a very old game..EU2 that is..or was it just not a very good game?

(I am speaking sales volume wise versus the few folks in the world who, like us, enjoy such games!)

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Not a single Paradox game ever made it to be a topseller

Order it online. Every marketplace has it. I started with EU1 in 1998, when I found it in a wharehouse by chance... Fell in love with Paradox at that time... I bought every single game they made, and until now EU2 is my favourite (followed by HoI, then CK).

What Iīm trying to say is: You should REALLY get that game! Itīs by far my most-played game ever.

EU2 via amazon.com

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Not a single Paradox game ever made it to be a topseller

Order it online. Every marketplace has it. I started with EU1 in 1998, when I found it in a wharehouse by chance... Fell in love with Paradox at that time... I bought every single game they made, and until now EU2 is my favourite (followed by HoI, then CK).

What Iīm trying to say is: You should REALLY get that game! Itīs by far my most-played game ever.

EU2 via amazon.com


so you do or dont have units to move?

I ask because I looked at the screenie (thanks for the link, btw) and didnt see any units..

Gramps

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Yeah, you have armies and navies which are made up of a mix of infantry, cavalry, artillery, warships, transports and galleys.

Each has a leader, who may or may not be a special historical leader (like Nelson).

You also send out colonists to colonize new territories and to establish trading posts, merchants to trade, diplomats to conduct diplomacy and missionaries to convert the heathen.

Depending on which map mode you have, you will not see the units.

Buy the game. You can probably find it quite cheap these days, and it is better than Civ. Once you get bored of thrashing the computer, you can play over the net with other Apolytoners or whoever.

Once you get bored, buy Victoria. Once you get bored of that it will be about 2012 by which time virtual sex will have become indistinguishable from the real thing and computer games will die off (spotty teen boys will have better things to do).

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And when youīve bought it, donīt forget to patch it up and then - highly recommended - install AGCEEP. This is a mod that makes the game (especially the 100-years-war between England and France) much more realistic. It also doubles the amount of events...

Maybe you already know that each Paradox game (except for CK, which just is too new) has a number of mods which make it better in every way. Playing "plain" EU2 is fun, but once youīve witnessed the superior plot of AGCEEP you donīt ever want to return...
(Now if only it was stable...)

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And when youīve bought it, donīt forget to patch it up and then - highly recommended - install AGCEEP. This is a mod that makes the game (especially the 100-years-war between England and France) much more realistic. It also doubles the amount of events...

Maybe you already know that each Paradox game (except for CK, which just is too new) has a number of mods which make it better in every way. Playing "plain" EU2 is fun, but once youīve witnessed the superior plot of AGCEEP you donīt ever want to return...
(Now if only it was stable...)


Now I have to tell ya I luv my Call To Power..

what you just wrote sounds like some older posts..patch this and patch that

BUT..I have had a very good year in business and maybe ....just maybe

Santa will bring me the game

 
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