26-11-2004 13:44									#1
	Scratch Pad Thread Got spare money?

I thought this might be a fun idea to give some insight into the work that scenario designers put into their scenarios.

Below I have published my main scratch pad graphics file that I used for Gold Gulch. In this file I built my saloons, modified Fairline's units, modified Curts cities for use in terrain, and created my own terrain, parts of which were derived from Favoured Flight's terrain.

If you've created a scenario, what does your scratch pad look like?

http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php?file=29398_GoldGulchScratch.gif

	26-11-2004 20:23									#2
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Killer workshop thread!

This way, people can adopt each other's files to diversify and increase graphic production!

Here is my mega buildings file - From which most of my cities grow.

If you want to use anything, all I ask is you give myself and any others (Smiley, Favouredflight, Catfish) a credit.

Enjoy!

Last edited by curtsibling on 27-11-2004 at 00:43

	27-11-2004 00:45									#3
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PS some of those cities are tweaked by Jim Panse, Fairline and many others,
the Curt/Smiley credit is held over from the humble city.bmp that this file grew from!

	27-11-2004 13:10									#4
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Curt, Harry, this is more than awesome

Now this makes a lot easier

	28-11-2004 08:23									#5
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I'm going to love this thread

I've been contemplating picking up Rhodesia, in addition to a few other ideas I have.

	28-11-2004 16:25									#6
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It would be great if you decided to get back into that project, rmsharpe!

I have no doubt that a scenario from you would be a winner -

	28-11-2004 22:37									#7
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I'm not all that great of an artist, though, thus causing some difficulty. I have to depend on the great work of the other artists here.

	28-11-2004 23:09									#8
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Anything you need, just ask...

	29-11-2004 07:17									#9
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Great idea, Harry!

Here's one of my first attempts at making a unit from scratch. I made it by looking at the pic in the background. It's not very good looking, nor any detailed, but the technique is very easy, for those first-timers out there.

A-10 thunderbolt:

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	29-11-2004 07:32									#10
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Here's what I did out of a photo-deux. The becoming of the bicycle trooper:

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	29-11-2004 07:39									#11
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I just realised, what I'm posting is more "graphics workshop" material, right?

Anyway, I have more of these of needed.

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	29-11-2004 08:35									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Kobra I just realised, what I'm posting is more "graphics workshop" material, right?

Eh, not really. A scratchpad can show a progression when building a unit, terrain, cities, whatever. I think Catfish's thread was to show a technique exclusively, not just a representation of a certain unit being built. Fairline's Soviet tank "How to" could even be a scratchpad, but then again he was showing off a technique. I think you're fine.

	29-11-2004 13:40									#13
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Excellent stuff in here I will come up with something more later the day as well

	29-11-2004 23:13									#14
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Very well!

I have dozens of these laying around. Here's another one of my early ones I found. The German ww2 heavy fighter dornier 335. If you zoom in on it you'll see that again I've used a very easy technique, that anyone should be able to learn with some practice. It's not har at all, it's just very time consuming.

I used the background pic as a source. Eventually I tried myself at the texture technique thing, with very little success. I would love to see someone touch this one up, and then give it some real texture

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	19-12-2004 13:12									#15
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I thought this thread could use a bump. It's a great concept. I've tinkered with stuff, but never actually produced anything. When I get around to making some things, I'll post my scratch up here.

	19-12-2004 15:55									#16
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I'll post my unit pad up soon, too...

	22-12-2004 18:30									#17
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my sci-fi unit scratch pad bmp is 50mb

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My scratch pads are in .mic format....

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Then convert it!

	28-12-2004 02:04									#20
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@ Curt's stuff. OMG! I burst out laughing when I saw Curt's collection of buildings. It's great stuff, of course, but I'd never pictured him meticulously piecing together cities out of separate structures. Like little toy blocks.

Still, it's beautiful stuff, Curt. Current state-of-the-art.

	02-01-2005 00:49									#21
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Here's one of my unit editing pads that i fill up on a regular basis and use as a source for other units i edit

It has a bunch of unfinish editing attempts and experiments.

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	02-01-2005 01:13									#22
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and this sould be useful, a big blank unit sheet
edit: it was too big so i had to zip it

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	02-01-2005 20:54									#23
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How i made my mammoth tank

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	10-01-2005 02:03									#24
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I also have something to share. I've thought of this while I was working on improving the terrain for Freeciv 2.0.

I don´t know if this technique is used already but I´ve made a multi-layered terrainsheet. All sorts of terrain now get their own layer (trees, rivers, mountains etc...). This way I can easily change the terrain by simply (de)activating that particular layer.

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Kewl!

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quote: Originally posted by Harry Tuttle quote: Originally posted by Kobra I just realised, what I'm posting is more "graphics workshop" material, right? Eh, not really. A scratchpad can show a progression when building a unit, terrain, cities, whatever. I think Catfish's thread was to show a technique exclusively, not just a representation of a certain unit being built. Fairline's Soviet tank "How to" could even be a scratchpad, but then again he was showing off a technique. I think you're fine.

They both show method. This is in fact precisely the sort of thing that would be suitable for a workshop. The Graphics Workshop thread came about as a result of a discussion between Fairline, Curt, William Keenan and me, the aim being to provide a source of information for graphics creators, whether it be tutorials, FAQs, tips, links, etc. It's pretty general. I'd actually consider merging this thread into that one.

quote: Originally posted by CapTVK I don´t know if this technique is used already but I´ve made a multi-layered terrainsheet. All sorts of terrain now get their own layer (trees, rivers, mountains etc...). This way I can easily change the terrain by simply (de)activating that particular layer.

Following a similar principle, you can use multiple layers to apply textures to terrain – in much the same way as I do for units. I've attached a file for one of Microprose's hill sets. It's saved in PSP's (8.10) proprietary format. Select or deselect layers and/or change their properties (blend mode and opacity) to create different effects. Add more layers if desired. Copy merged when you're done.



Download (111 kb) Edit: In future, I'll learn to crop my layers. A slightly smaller version.

	19-01-2005 10:24									#27
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one last attempt to breathe life back into this topic
my t-35 scratchpad

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