13-12-2004 00:47									#61
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Rommel, didn't you know that in a battle of horsmen vs swordsmen, the horsemen will often win? I'd never trade horses to the iroquois for iron, unless I were the Romans or the Celts ...

oops ...

	13-12-2004 01:37									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Moonbars no mate, you have misread me again

Maybe the problem is more on the writing end- have you considered taking your holiday across the border and learning the Queen's English?

As for Iron Civers around Jackson Hole, Trip and smellymummy are in the Mountain Time Zone, but I don't know exactly where. Other than that I think Soltz and MFCamillus are the only other ones who might be within 1000 miles, with snoopy and myself just outside that range...

	13-12-2004 02:03									#63
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Probably matters more on who plays at the same time as moonbars? Not sure on that count - I forget when he plays I'd think anyone in US time zones would probably play close enough, depending on their personal schedule (work/etc.)

edit: What's this with mountain time zones and jackson's hole? Moonbars is UK from what I recall ...

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	13-12-2004 06:32									#64
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Enough talk....let's start!

	13-12-2004 11:42									#65
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I've tested PBEM war weariness with conquests and have seen effects that match how it is supposed to work in SP. Since we played without it in the first round, I won't throw in a new "leave or declare war" rule unless there is general interest...

The Worthingtons Manouvre is allowed until I hear some anecdotal evidence of it throwing off game balance in PBEMs, at least as much as the SoZ is claimed to.

Is there any reason not to get the first few turns in before alexman leaves?

	13-12-2004 12:55									#66
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Well, I don't mind a short break in the beginning, gives me time to dream up a good strategy

	13-12-2004 15:20									#67
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quote: Originally posted by bongo Well, I don't mind a short break in the beginning, gives me time to dream up a good strategy

Oh Bongo, then you mean the "build a hundred Horsemen and the SoZ and crush the opposition while still in despotism" strategy needs some refinement?

	13-12-2004 15:40									#68
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Despotism Rule!!!

	14-12-2004 12:15									#69
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quote: Originally posted by bongo Weekdays: 1700-2200 UTC

United Technologies Corporation has their own time zone!?


Because of Alexlung's availability during the day Poly time (14:00-22:00 GMT), it looks like it might be best to have him after Aquaman but before the Bongo-Moon swing. However, unless Bongo and Aqua can play a turn in the morning, there's no way to get more than one turn a day in regardless.

Blitz sessions would likely be when Bongo and Moonbars can play in the afternoon- 14:00 to 16:00 GMT- (if alexman gets up as early on weekends), or if Aqualung were to pull an all-nighter. Care to let Paddy sub for ya?

So:
Aqua -> Alex -> Bongo -> Moon
-or-
Aqua -> Bongo -> Moon -> Alex
?

Also, if there's a chance Bongo can sneak in a turn in the middle of the day, he should go after Moonbars...

	14-12-2004 14:39									#70
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UTC is just newspeak for GMT.


I *could* sneak in the occasional turn during the day bur don't count on it. Even if I don't love my job I'd still like to keep it. Playing in the morning is also not an option.

	14-12-2004 17:01									#71
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I can usually play a turn in the morning.....GMT2200-2345

And I often pull all nighters......as I did l;ast night till 0230 and regretted it this morning

	15-12-2004 10:04									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Aqualung71 And I often pull all nighters......as I did l;ast night till 0230 and regretted it this morning

0230? That's a late nighter. Moonbars is just getting home then. You'll need an all nighter for a blitz.

The good news is that:
Aqua > alex > Moon > Bongo
should allow 2-a-day whenever Bongo is able to sneak a turn past his boss.

I'll generate the game soon with your passwords from last round. Let me know quick if you need a new one for some reason...

	15-12-2004 12:47									#73
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Ok, I give. How do you change the difficulty on a PBEM scenario? The game keeps showing up at Regent. The box in the setup screen says 'custom'. I opened the file in the editor again and changed each player to 'emperor' in the scenario properties and resaved; no change. The only other difficulty tab I found was under custom rules for changing the level effects.

I've heard about settings depending on the last game played before loading, but I've never played Conquests at Regent. What gives?

	15-12-2004 13:24									#74
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Eh, that is actually a very good question. I've run into the same problem while trying to make a PBEM scenario, which in the end killed the game on the runway so to speak. Another problem is barb-activity, which also seems to follow it's own rules. I've read(but not tested) that you get the barb-activity you had in the last SP-game you started

	15-12-2004 13:32									#75
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I thought I had the solution somewhere in the old setup thread for my 'evil overlord' project but no.


I'll check my notes at home later, I think I managed to solve the difficulty level problem. Not 100% sure though (more like 78% actually) so if someone think they know the real answer, be my guest

	15-12-2004 17:44									#76
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yeah, the difficulty level is tricky if you use the editor.
in a PBEM i finally did it as follows: set the player data to custom and then set it for each player to whatever difficulty you want.
the game will still show regent when loading, but the corruption and happiness are at the level of the chosen difficulty.

	15-12-2004 19:19									#77
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There are a couple of things that can go wrong when setting up a scenario in PBEM.

1) The game might think the map is a different size than it actually is (this happens in SP too). To get around this, you should set the map size characteristics (OCN, tech rate, etc) to be the same for all map sizes in the scenario rules, and then it will not matter what size the game thinks the map is.

2) The difficulty level might get set to something other than what you want. To get around that, you should first select the difficulty level in the setup screen, and then specify the scenario. Even though the difficulty will be changed to show 'custom', it will actually be what you had there before. Note: I played a PTW game set up like sabrewolf suggests a while back, and the tech rate did not match the difficulty level, so that method is not reliable.

	16-12-2004 00:47									#78
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Rats, I just checked my evil overlord worklog and couldn't find any indication I solved the difficulty problem.

However, I found this on barb activity. It's from CFC but I haven't tested it yet.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showp...67&postcount=15
watorrey. C3C at least, ignores the scenario barb activity setting and uses the barb activity setting you choose in your last random game. The only way to know 100% what your current setting is, is to use Ainwoods seedbeast to check a .sav

	16-12-2004 00:55									#79
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I promise you the way I described above works. I used it to set up all difficulty levels for AU601, which was a PBEM.

	16-12-2004 02:21									#80
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No prob mate, I was talking bout barbs while you discussed difficulty

Thanks for the tip btw. I may just be able to get my evil overlord project moving again

	18-12-2004 12:59									#81
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After giving it a few days, it seems like a simple solution: set the difficulty in the MP screen before loading the scenario, as alexman points out in his second point. It now shows Emperor in the box when the turn is loaded (very helpful I find in a PBEM to be reminded of such things when loading the save each turn).

Since this is the proper size map for 4 players, hopefully alexman's first point won't be an issue. Please let me know if you notice anything out of the ordinary.

Tracking thread soon to follow...

	18-12-2004 22:08									#83
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First turn played and sent to alexman....the tracking thread isn't up yet

	19-12-2004 00:09									#84
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3950 to Moonbars. Good luck everyone!

	19-12-2004 00:34									#85
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To Bongo

	19-12-2004 02:45									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Aqualung71 First turn played and sent to alexman....the tracking thread isn't up yet

It is now...

	22-12-2004 10:19									#87
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quote: Originally posted by Aqualung71 I can usually play a turn in the morning.....GMT2200-2345 And I often pull all nighters......as I did l;ast night till 0230 and regretted it this morning

indeed... play hard ... party harder

	16-01-2005 06:31									#88
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Just a quick update on the IC Final. We've progressed pretty nicely since alexman returned from holidays, and at 1 turn or more per day we're now up to 3150BC

	16-01-2005 06:51									#89
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However, we are about to suffer DISASTER!!! I am on holiday from the 21st of Jan until Feb 6th.

	16-01-2005 07:14									#90
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Maybe if we all attack you in the next few turns, it won't make any difference.