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bipolarbear is offline bipolarbear
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I bought the new GTA yesterday, and have been locked in my room ever since, except for now. (I had to use the bathroom, and so I figured that a good 'Poly visit was necessary too.)
Anywho, the game forking rules!!! Its way more realistic as compared to the past few GTAs. I'm quivering with joy at the thought of this masterpiece getting good graphics, and custom radio songs on the xbox. (Although to its credit it does seem to be stretching the limit of ps2 graphics.)
The soundtrack is better than the crappy 80's sound track of vice city. If you hate rap though then you may feel a little bit left out. If rap is a serious problem for you, then hang on for the XBOX version.
Bicycles are fun to ride althought they are very easy to fall off of.
The workout part of the game is quite fun, and when you get buff enough ,then more people will respect you.

"What's the big deal about respect?" you say. You can recruit gang members with higher and higher respect levles. and then you can load all of them in a car and go on drive by missions.

OMFG! There is sooooo much in this game. You can do everything from the past gtas (Except I think that they got rid of rampages ) There is even a jetpack!!! (with cheats at least)

Even cooler though,

2 PLAYER MODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A lot of the game is based around gang stuff. One of the most fun aspects, is tagging, you get to run around and do graffitti.

I think that is how you claim your gang territory, but I'm not sure.

They've also gone the rpg route, by making it so that you can gain experience points in everything. Weapons, bicycling, motorcycles, cars, everything.

Your appearance is quite customizable. Hair and clothing are all up to you and your budget.

My one critique is that I haven't played any other games where you don't get to customize your character, where the character isn't white.
With the exception, of a few movie based games IIRC. But if anybody knows of any games that aren't based on a movie or tv series, where you can't custom create a character, and the character is black, please tell me.

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A good trick for gettting your weapon stats higher, is to get a higher wanted star rating, and then go inside a pizza place. Cap off ( shoot and kill) all of the suckers ( crackers etc.) in there. Then wait for a little bit, and some cops will appear, but they won't shoot!!
Cap off (see above) the suckas (see suckers) and your skill level with the weapon you use will increase super fast as compared to running around capping other gangs, and pedestrians.



Also, you don't actually ever need to eat in the game. When your health gets low, go to your safe hizzy (safe house) and save. Your health will be full, nad you don't need to waste the $2 it takes to buy a meal.

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btw, has anybody tried the 2 player mode yet? I want to (although I'm alone right now) but I haven't a second controller.

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A good trick for gettting your weapon stats higher, is to get a higher wanted star rating, and then go inside a pizza place. Cap off ( shoot and kill) all of the suckers ( crackers etc.) in there. Then wait for a little bit, and some cops will appear, but they won't shoot!!
Cap off (see above) the suckas (see suckers) and your skill level with the weapon you use will increase super fast as compared to running around capping other gangs, and pedestrians.



Also, you don't actually ever need to eat in the game. When your health gets low, go to your safe hizzy (safe house) and save. Your health will be full, nad you don't need to waste the $2 it takes to buy a meal.


Have you been talking to Skanky?

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My one critique is that I haven't played any other games where you don't get to customize your character, where the character isn't white.
With the exception, of a few movie based games IIRC. But if anybody knows of any games that aren't based on a movie or tv series, where you can't custom create a character, and the character is black, please tell me.


There's a reason it's done this way

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Its way more realistic as compared to the past few GTAs


I should slap you and my friend. Its a game, its not meant to be realistic and is far from it. Realistic would be going into your closet digging out Bessy and Munchkin and shooting people in real life. :P

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I think that is how you claim your gang territory, but I'm not sure.:


Nope. Once you get to the right mission you'll see how territory works, its very fun.

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Also, you don't actually ever need to eat in the game. When your health gets low, go to your safe hizzy (safe house) and save. Your health will be full, nad you don't need to waste the $2 it takes to buy a meal.


When you get "hungry" your muscle drops faster until you eat something.


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btw, has anybody tried the 2 player mode yet? I want to (although I'm alone right now) but I haven't a second controller.


Yes, its not that great. You're stuck to one screen, its a pain in the ass to get in the same vehicle, and its even more of a pain in the ass when your friend decides to kill everyone in sight and then stop to try to get into a pain in the ass vehicle because his driving skills are so leet that he thinks he can shake a 5star wanted level. It all ends with him dying and me fending off all the cops, he then blames me for not working as a team and goes off on a ten minute rant why he just "isnt sure" about me... oh wait, I guess you wouldnt have that problem.

I guess it could be fun if you played with the right person.


As for the weapons skill, it raises fast enough once you start the gang (territory) wars.

The music is alright, but there's a lot less of it than in GTA:VC. Or so it seems. A lot of early 90s rap, a few decent rock and alternative songs, and a little bit of country. There are almost no commercials though, and the talk radio sucks ass.

edit: in one of the missions if you pay close attention to whats being said LSPD (Los Santos PD) will refer to itself as LAPD (Los Angeles PD)

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The music is alright, but there's a lot less of it than in GTA:VC. Or so it seems. A lot of early 90s rap, a few decent rock and alternative songs, and a little bit of country. There are almost no commercials though, and the talk radio sucks ass.

Aw for shizzle homey1 (ditto dude!)
I guess b/c they invested more in gameplay etc. they had to cut somewhere else, and radio got snubbed. It is kind of part of the reason that I bought the last three gtas, but The gmaeplay is soo awesome htis time, that I don't care.
The one place that does has some funny audio clips, is in the ammunation. "God D*mn I sound like hot sh*t in that commercial!"

I just discovered the gnag wars thing, and Its awesome! I have 25 territories under control which makes me the biggest gang. But I will not rest until I own San Andreas!!!!!!
The one annoying thing about being the king of the hood, is when your getting set to go on a date with Denise, and hten boom TURF WAR! and you have to go and defend your turf.

DO the date missions do anything for you anyways? Do they play into the storyline at all? I read that if you pursue them 100%, then you can keep your weapons after you die and get arrested or something.

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that's it... I'M BUYING THIS GAME TODAY!

good idea.

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Have you been talking to Skanky?

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Tired of ads?

Is it possible for your girlfriends to become uncontactable? I missed a couple of dates with Denise and now whenever I go to her place, she's not there at all. I've tried stalkerish stakeouts, but she's still a no show. And despite my effforts, I still get litttle *****y popups telling me about how our relationship is in decline.

Either way, I'm stuck on the damn lowrider race mission now. I hate the races. I sucked w/o nitro but now with it, I've got a slight chance.

The jetpack is damn addicting, and fun.

I love the game and I'm only on the first island! I haven't seen daylight for 2 days.

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The one annoying thing about being the king of the hood, is when your getting set to go on a date with Denise, and hten boom TURF WAR! and you have to go and defend your turf.


I never did bother going out with her. I didnt see the point in it, I watched my friend do it once, it was pointless. I had bigger things to attend to, I had a sprawling empire in the heart of the city. I couldnt be bothered to pay attention to some ho that should have burned anyway.

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Either way, I'm stuck on the damn lowrider race mission now. I hate the races. I sucked w/o nitro but now with it, I've got a slight chance.


A word of advice, control is more important than speed. If you can find one of the pimpmobiles or lowrider trucks (I forget the name of them) use it instead of those long cars, they wont spin out as often. In my experience anyway.

Something that may sadden you, there are more than a few racing missions that you have to beat to advance the story line at certain points. Just remember control is more important than speed. Learning how to perform a pit maneuver and ride away from it without a hitch helps a lot too.


I wont give any specifics, but the nameless man from GTA3(the pc) makes a cameo appearance.

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Is it possible for your girlfriends to become uncontactable?


Try saying their ass has grown, and that you don't like their new dress.

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How do you get girlfriends? I'm only on like the 5th or 6th mission. Does it come later?

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btw, I went out yesterday and bought Playstion 2, NHL 2k5 and another controller just to play GTA:San Andreas... I spent like 260 bucks in total. And I just put it on my credit card. But good news, I finally got a job after like 2 years without working. I still ... ... in fact i'm blasted right now getting ready to play gta... just had to check my email and ****... post on Poly... you know?

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How do you get girlfriends? I'm only on like the 5th or 6th mission. Does it come later?


its part of one of the missions, then there are other women throughout the land for you to find and woo.


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But how can you play a game like GTA on a gamepad? I tried this game (GTA SA) for about an hour (just driving around, not doing any missions), and was really getting pissed at that gamepad

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But how can you play a game like GTA on a gamepad?


Easily. I played GTA3 on PS2, I played GTA:VC on PS2, and now I play GTA:SA on PS2. Besides it wasnt meant to be played on a computer.

You get used to the controls after playing for awhile, you dont just magicly pick up the controller and drive as good as your friend who has playedGTA for 2+ hours a day ever since GTA3 was released.

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But how can you play a game like GTA on a gamepad? I tried this game (GTA SA) for about an hour (just driving around, not doing any missions), and was really getting pissed at that gamepad

IMHO, you have to do some of the missions and stuff before you can fully enjoy just roaming and shooting stuff in the game. You have to get your weapon skill, health muscle, stamina etc. ratings up before it can be cool.

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you rescue this worthless chick from a burning building. The thing that was weird to me is she hails from Grove street but was hanging out in balla territory. WTF? The Families and the Ballas are mortal enemies.

[quote]A word of advice, control is more important than speed.

So I have found. Slow and steady wins the race. However the nitro comes in handy on the long stretches when you need to catch up.

BTW, when you "Pimp your ride" and you get nitro and it says "Nitro 2x, Nitro 5x, and Nitro 10x" does that stand for how powerful it is, or how many blasts you get?

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IMHO, you have to do some of the missions and stuff before you can fully enjoy just roaming and shooting stuff in the game. You have to get your weapon skill, health muscle, stamina etc. ratings up before it can be cool.


I never found any weapons, so I didn't get to shoot at all, but it was the most basic controls that annoyed me... could someone tell me the logic in using the button that kinda reminds of the 'up' button on the keyboard to enter/exit the car, while the 'left' button is reverse, the 'down' button is forward?
I was busted many times by the police because of this, since instead of driving away from the police, he got out of the car

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Adagio, you are strange. Either you use your thumbs on the keyboard or you lay your controller out flat and push buttons with your index fingers, either way you have it all wrong.

You have to do a few missions before weapons are provided for you, or you can run around and find the hidden weapons. Just in the Grove Street culdesac there are brass knuckles and a pistol. The brass knuckles are under the bridge, and the pistol is snugged next to the fence and wall behind Sweet's house.


Now back to my discoveries that I feel like sharing:
There's a parachute in this game and you can jump out of the airplanes at high altitude.

Also up on the top of Mt. Chiliad* (name might be wrong here) there is a "ramp" provided for you, you can haul ass off it with a bike and try to land it. So far its ended in a bloody mess for me (5 times).

*the top of the mountain is freakin' high.

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Adagio, you are strange. Either you use your thumbs on the keyboard or you lay your controller out flat and push buttons with your index fingers, either way you have it all wrong.


None of those

I use the keyboard as it's supposed to be used, and I'm a very good driver in GTA, but the controls for the game on a PS2 is just plain weird, you have to stop using logic if you want to be any good at it...

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???

Have you ever played a console game before, Adagio?

Can you suggest any alternative way the controls for the game could have been set up to make it logical? What is the most "logical" button to press for car-jacking somebody?

I'm confused...

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And why is (for example) the the "Q" key on the keyboard a better option for looking behind you while driving a car than the R2 button on a joypad? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

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I find the default keyboard layout for GTA3 and Vice City to be badly set out too. I reconfigure all the keys before playing. After that, I can drive the car left or right-handed.

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???

Have you ever played a console game before, Adagio?

Can you suggest any alternative way the controls for the game could have been set up to make it logical? What is the most "logical" button to press for car-jacking somebody?

I'm confused...


I haven't played much consoles (never owned one, never will), but I've played a few PS games at my friends place some years ago, mostly fighting games though...



Here you see a almost realistic picture of a PS joypad:



The numbers are help for showing what the controls are now and what I'd like them to be... I know they have some signs (like one of them is a circle), but I don't remember what is what, so numbers are easier

This is the current controls for GTA SA:
1) Enter/Exit vehicle
2) Reverse
3) Jump? Not sure, never used it
4) forward
And then there's this "joystick" on the other side, which is only used for left/right...

This is what I want them to be:
1) Forward
2) Enter/Exit
3) Jump (or whatever)
4) Reverse
And the "joystick" part should just stay as it is...


This is much more logic IMHO, since in all driving games for the PC (that I've tried) has the 'up'* key as forward and the 'down' key as brake/reverse, and basicly the setup on the keypad looks like those keys...
Ok, there's also a left/right on they keyboard, but the "same" buttons of the joypad wouldn't make it better...



* In case you're not sure what keys I'm talking about, it's these:

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And why is (for example) the the "Q" key on the keyboard a better option for looking behind you while driving a car than the R2 button on a joypad? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.


I haven't complained about those controls... it was only the most basic driving controls I've complained about...

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I find the default keyboard layout for GTA3 and Vice City to be badly set out too. I reconfigure all the keys before playing. After that, I can drive the car left or right-handed.


I haven't had any problems with the default keyboard layout IIRC (I don't remember changing them at least... but on the other hand, most people around here know how bad my memory is), but I could still drive nomatter what hand I used... Of course I drove better with my right hand, but I could still escape the police with my left...

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I have wadx as one set of car controls, the numpad as a second set of car controls. I can change hands while driving around the streets, even in the middle of a turn. Tis nifty.

 
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