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Many thanks!

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I kept on playing amd didn't notice anything weird except for the harpies bug already mentioned by n3st0r!

And Curt, if you ever come across my gf, you'll have to apologize for all the hours I spent playing your game!

It's amazingly brilliant!

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I kept on playing amd didn't notice anything weird except for the harpies bug already mentioned by n3st0r!

I thought he might have fixed that by now – but then again the man's on holidays. You can fix it yourself if you like. The reason units are appearing at coordinates (0,0) is because the "randomize" modifier for the CreateUnit events has been placed after the "locations" entry. It should be before. The word "randomize" is therefore being read as the first set of coordinates, producing the null values (0,0). InCapital overrides the listed coordinates and that explains why it works.

While you're at it, you might want to comment out @debug at the head of the file. That'll speed up your loading times.

Oh and those LotR movies are overrated. The second one plain sucks. Just thought I'd throw that in.

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Although, on the bonus disc for the third film Jackson reveals an alternative scene that he had shot for the confrontation between Sauren and Viggo.

Somehow this doesn't surprise me. I don't think Peter Jackson/Fran Walsh would recognise the word, subtlety, if it walked up and tore them each a new arsehole. Obviously, neither would I.

Man, I'm going to have to start paying Curt as my PR man.

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Oh and those LotR movies are overrated. The second one plain sucks. Just thought I'd throw that in.


Somehow this doesn't surprise me. I don't think Peter Jackson/Fran Walsh would recognise the word, subtlety, if it walked up and tore them each a new arsehole. Obviously, neither would I.

Man, I'm going to have to start paying Curt as my PR man.


Did you watch the extended versions of the LoTR movies?

The additional film footage makes all the difference...

But I agree I would like to have seen some things a bit different.

Still, overall I think it was an amazing achievement...

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Compared to Helm's Deep, the Battle of the Pelennor Fields looked like two guys boxing....

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I thought he might have fixed that by now – but then again the man's on holidays. You can fix it yourself if you like. The reason units are appearing at coordinates (0,0) is because the "randomize" modifier for the CreateUnit events has been placed after the "locations" entry. It should be before. The word "randomize" is therefore being read as the first set of coordinates, producing the null values (0,0). InCapital overrides the listed coordinates and that explains why it works.


This has been fixed, milord!

@to all:
The new zip will arrive sometime tommorow - And I am welcoming any suggestions on the irrigation...

The farmland I want to keep though, because I like the look...

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While you're at it, you might want to comment out @debug at the head of the file. That'll speed up your loading times.


I am a knave for missing that one in the first place, but tis' fixed now...

(enough medieval talk from me! )

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Oh and those LotR movies are overrated. The second one plain sucks. Just thought I'd throw that in.


I wouldn't be surprised if the Feebles made an appearance...

With Elijineezer Woods as Frodo, they nearly did!


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Somehow this doesn't surprise me. I don't think Peter Jackson/Fran Walsh would recognise the word, subtlety, if it walked up and tore them each a new arsehole. Obviously, neither would I.


Tolkien would have thrashed them both with his cane...

...he was an Oxford academic, after all!

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Man, I'm going to have to start paying Curt as my PR man.


I thought I was! - You owe me 2 year's back pay!

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@to all:
The new zip will arrive sometime tommorow - And I am welcoming any suggestions on the irrigation...


I'm using the one that was included in 2914 Days of War GM... It looks good, and unobtrusive.

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Any chance of posting it up as a cropped gif?

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Did you watch the extended versions of the LoTR movies?

The additional film footage makes all the difference...

No I haven't. Whilst they may be an improvement over the originals, I fail to see how additional footage can undo the cheesy script writing prevalent in the rest of the film. I still might buy them, though.

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Still, overall I think it was an amazing achievement...

With a budget like that, it ought to be. The problem is that when that kind of money is at stake, the marketing men step in with their demographic charts and you end up with movie-making-by-the-numbers.

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Compared to Helm's Deep, the Battle of the Pelennor Fields looked like two guys boxing....

The interminable Helm's Deep battle is a great cure for insomnia – I remember checking my watch a number of times in the cinema – always a bad sign. I preferred Pelennor Fields, although both battles bordered on farce at times.

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I wouldn't be surprised if the Feebles made an appearance...

With Elijineezer Woods as Frodo, they nearly did!

I haven't seen that movie. I found Elijah tolerable, but he's not everyone's bag. For the most part I didn't mind the casting, although IMO the Arwen scenes with Liv Tyler were a negative.

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I thought I was! - You owe me 2 year's back pay!

You realise of course that around here the only currency is Civ2 gold. You might have to install the no-limits patch, though.

Now that I've said my piece, I'll cease this threadjacking immediately…

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No sweat, the thread-jack buys me some time till I get this new zip together!

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UPDATE:
Working on completing the Word Readme file...(my first in that format!)

PS
Has anyone noticed any huge errors or bugs?
I want to release this one now and get working on the next project.

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Here:

Attachment: irri.gif
This has been downloaded 180 time(s).

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Yep!

That is the one I have - It does look quite easssy on the peepers in-game!

I will make this the final irrigation graphic.

(with credit to Nemo!)

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Has anyone noticed any huge errors or bugs?


Nothing to report, Sir!

The only thing I would like to add is probably something you've been adressing since you posted the playtest:
the unbuildable units an wonders don't appear in the Pedia!

I would like to be able to read their descriptions (for instance the cool ones you wrote about the heroes on this forum! ). I'm sure you know how to make the description available even for unbuildable units (and if you don't, just ask).

But in summary: amazing work mate, I believe it's even higher than your usual standard, which says it all!

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I have been trying to overcome that problem with the pedia, with all the the tricks I know...

But alas, ToT does not seem to want to list those units beyond the normal amount.

If anyone knows how to defeat this bug, it would be a bonus!



It is not such a biggie, as I will give information about the units in the Readme!

Only three more tasks to go...

1- Get the readme finished:

2- Finish the improvement pedia artwork:

3- Add one or two lines to the events to make the Ancients more of a pain:


And then I think it may be ready!

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PS
Many thanks for your kind words, Cyrion!

Yer a diamond geezer!

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I discovered a small bug (well, 2, to be precise), but the good news is: it's easy to correct!

I suppose you didn't know at first what you wanted to do with the Gem of Hidden Wisdom, because here is what happened in my game:
1) I took Ralal's Tomb, and upon entering I got the same message twice (and if you look in the events, it's there twice); apart from that (unecessary, I'm old but not enough to forget things after half a second) repetition, the event works fine and the Gem Wonder is indeed in Ralal's Tomb

Note: looking at the event file, the repetition bestows another improvement, and doesn't speak about the Gem!; just check!

2) When I took Arkunsol, I got a message telling me the Imperion gave the same Gem, which I of course already had!

So if I were you, I would just check what one gets with those 2 events...


And about the pedia: doesn't the once/twice removed trick work with ToT as it does with MPGE??

Now, that would make a good reason to insist with the "lesser civ version"...

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Those will be fixed - Well spotted!

Also - You'll be glad to know that an old wizard from
down under let me in on the solution to the pedia bug!

This is good news!

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down under let me in on the solution to the pedia bug!


Has it to do with the "once/twice removed" techs, or does ToT require something different from MPGE??

(You never know, I might end up doing a ToT scen, one day... )

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It had to do with the layout of the Describe.txt file.

That is what I am working on at the moment - But using
this and changing some rules values mean that indeed
all the units are now showing in the pedia!

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Excellent!

You know how we are: we'll use the readme when we first play, but not after that, so it's good to have the units + Wonders in the Pedia!

PS: don't forget to check that all Wonders show up...

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Will do!

More info to follow!

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Curt, it seems to me that some of your forest look like "truncated" at the top; I mean that the end of the forest at the top of the square looks a bit to ostraight! To understand more clearly what I mean, check on squares 187, 181 or 180, 176 for instance.

What do you think ?

[entering nitpicking mode]
In your event when receiving tech 14, you wrote "most" instead of "must"
[nitpicking mode off]

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The forests are mostly ToT standard ones - But that does not mean I can't tweak them!

I'll see what I can do -
And about that nitpick; worry not!
I am a perfectionist too!

Cheers for the alert on that typo!

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OK, now I'm reporting on a few things I noticed in my game which are gameplay related!

I am playing as the Bursar, ath Prince level equivalent

I am in 27, and I just took Ironfire Peak

The only problem is that I think it was too easy... All I needed was Captain Lopaz and Irene, with rushbuilding Sentinels to garrison the cities as I took them!

The Ancient have many units, and powerful ones! But the problem is: they don't behave agressively with them!

I had a few Ancient units wandering around one of my city for about 10-20 turns without EVER attacking it!

And when I attacked the Ancient on their home ground, they just wandered (in huge numbers) around the cities as I took them one by one!

OK, I might have been lucky in some parts of it: just after I before I attacked Smashrule, I noticed an Ancient stack south of the city, so I thought: well, maybe there are 3-4 units in that stack, so it might be worth delaying my attack for one turn to kill them!

And believe me, it was worth the wait: I was quite pleased when I read that I had destroyed 58 units!

And after having taken Smashrule, another stack appeared at the same spot, so I thought I might redo the same: this time I got 135 of them b*st*rds! (up to now, my Red Front "record" was 93! :evilgrin.

And after I had taken Direhold, a lot of Ancient Units kept on going round the city, so I thought I might try to go to Ironfire at once, which I did with ONLY Lopaz and Eddy euh, I mean Irene! I took me only 2 turns to take the city...

So I don't know if my game is representatvie of the Ancient behaviour, and if you can do something about their agressivity, but at least if the stacks are events created, try to spread the units a bit more so one can't destroy them all in 1 blow!

Another thing is that the Zatarn didn't develop at all: they have only one city (Temple of Sekra, which I am about to take!); did the other testers notice this lack of development too??

Note: my comments here don't mean the game isn't enjoyable, but I believe that if something could be done about that it would be even better!

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I just ended my test game with a Global COnquest by the Bursar Council in Direchill 31!

I didn't notice any other problems, congrats!

Am I allowed to say that I had a wonderful time playing this??

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I am glad you got to defeat the rivals!

Did you get the Imperion Gaurds and other rewards?

PS
I am almost done with the describe text, it is a large task!

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Yes, I got the awesome Imperion Guards, as well as many other rewards:

1) all of the Heroes before the other civs, except for xxx Horngal Armbreaker
2) I built or conquered from the Barbs all the Wonders before my rivals!

In summary, a pretty good performance!

For my conquests, I used nearly exclusively Heroes (once I had gained the 1st one) and Imperion Guard in the end game! (I ended with around 150 Imperion Guards, most of them unused... talk about overkill... )

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A grand victory!

"Truly the crown of Bitterfrost has found rightful place on your esteemed head!"



Soon you can try and repeat the performance with the full version!

 
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