10-12-2004 06:05									#121
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quote: Originally posted by Grumbold Any dancing tips? After 12 attempts i've managed 11 abject failures and 1 kiss on the hand and this is at beginner level

Practice makes perfect. I sucked at the beginning, but now can perform a flawless dance with an attractive daughter on Rogue.

Then also, calfskin boots help. They have you perform the correct move every now and then even if you screw up the sequence.

The biggest piece of practical advice I can give you though is, do not try to make your moves by the flashing hints on the keypad. They come too late, you won't know how to respond to the moves the chick makes, and overall you'll get screwed when you move up to higher difficulty levels.

	10-12-2004 06:27									#122
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I can't dance, I can't talk, only thing about me is the way I walk...

I have to chime in to agree that practice is the key here. It took me some time and the calfskin boots, but now I'm dancing like the best of them. Have dipped some beautiful daughters, no less, although even a perfect dance doesn't seem to be enough for that, and sometimes you can do mistakes to get the dip.

	10-12-2004 10:38									#123
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia Have dipped some beautiful daughters, no less, although even a perfect dance doesn't seem to be enough for that

Yeah, you gotta pull off some of those in-tune moves where the characters do an extra-fancy move when the game thinks you hit the right key at the right time. That's when the little hearts start appearing around the one big pulsating heart. The more of 'em you get, the better. Without 'em, even a flawless dance can't dip the beauty.

	10-12-2004 18:44									#124
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quote: Originally posted by vovan The biggest piece of practical advice I can give you though is, do not try to make your moves by the flashing hints on the keypad. They come too late, you won't know how to respond to the moves the chick makes, and overall you'll get screwed when you move up to higher difficulty levels.

Yep, I noticed that after a couple of tries at staring only at the numpad. I'm getting on okay with some of the easy moves, its when she spins and points simultaneously I lose the plot completely. I had my limited success when I wrote down a set of dance moves then reloaded. The dance changed midway but I'd racked up a few hearts by being able to anticipate the first 18 moves or so before i ended up fumbling and stumbling.

	11-12-2004 00:06									#125
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Dare I ask what dipping is?

	11-12-2004 00:20									#126
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It's Sid-talk


I'm playing on my first real game on level 3 in the 1660 era with 11-12 years of seafaring behind me.

In dancing it's good to notice the repetions of 2 or 4
Ex
4-6 4-6
4-3-3 4-3-3 4-3-3 4-3-3
6-1-1 6-1-1 6-1-1 6-1-1
8-1-1 8-1-1

Try to find these seriaes - it helps a lot when you might miss the first move and get the rest right by knowing which series she's doing


Q: Which sword do you prefear to use in hard battles?

	11-12-2004 00:29									#127
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Yup, learning the series like that has really helped a lot, I can in most cases succesfully guess what the next move is. And rapier all the way, baby.

	11-12-2004 00:39									#128
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I use the longsword against generic people, the cutlass against famous pirates, pushy guards, evil bastards, and the kind, and the rapier against the fat revolutionaries, libertines, traitors, spies and such.

	11-12-2004 17:30									#129
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I've been playing it for 3 days straight now, and loving it.
My first character is 41 or 42 years old now with failing health, i'm still playing on the 2nd level.
I have completed all the quests, but haven't attained the highest rank yet with the Spanish and English.
I also married a beautiful French girl.

I had a lot of trouble with dancing in the beginning as well, but once you know the smaller sequences and have the dancing slippers it becomes much easier.
You can screw up the first move of the sequence a few times and the slippers will save you, and after that i generally know what the moves will be.

For sword fighting i always choose the rapier...don't know why really, never tried the other ones a lot...as long as i'm winning with the rapier i see no need to try out the others

Land battles annoy me though...the units move so slow and i couldn't find a way to speed them up...it wouldn't be so bad if you could have 2 or 3 units moving at the same time, but you have to wait for 1 unit to completely stop moving before you can move another
As a result i've avoided land battles and kept my crew small for the most part of the game, no more 200 and often less than 100 men...but now at the end of my career i want to try and install as many Dutch Burghers as possible so i have a crew of almost 400.

Btw, how low can you let your happiness drop before you're in serious trouble? I've always divided the plunder when my crew was unhappy for a few months and capturing a few ships with decent loot in a row didn't move it to content. Is there a "very unhappy" as well?\
I'm asking because my longest voyage was 70+ months, with <100 crew and about 280k in loot....the crew was unhappy but i wonder if i could've gone on for a few more months.

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	12-12-2004 00:48									#130
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I'm getting this for my son, BKWM, for Christmas. I can't wait until he gives me a crack at it!

	12-12-2004 07:48									#131
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so you guys still playing this?

I read a few on the negative reviews on gamespot. Some said it can become repetitive after the first 10 hours. I like to play games that have a lot of replay value. Seeing as most games cost $50.

	12-12-2004 15:27									#132
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I think you are supposed to replay with on different difficulty levels, and try to win faster and so on.

	12-12-2004 15:50									#133
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Well in my first reral game as earlier stated I run into some problems with finding my uncle (had all the maps, but with no seamarks -> couln't find him)

So stared a new game a 3^rd level Duth 1660 era.
(Had advanced to this in my previous game, but boy this is real hard now. I'm having real problems with fight's crew happines etc. damm what difference compared to last game start (was on second level)

So yes still playing...

	12-12-2004 15:55									#134
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There's a difference between the first 4 levels (apart from the dancing)?

After I finished my last game a couple days ago I haven't touched the game, and probably wont for a long time...

	12-12-2004 23:23									#135
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Wow!!!

This game rocks for me totally on level 3.
Just finished my first sailing (22 months) with struggling amount of crew almost all the time max content, mostly unhappy.

But what earnings

• Ship of the line with all eight uppgrades - a gift from the Brittish (One just has to appreciate a genoracity of this magnitude... )
  
• Made Antigua French and conqured the Spanish city of Montserat
  
• All eight speciallists
  
• Ranks: Spanish (4/8), English 8000gold , French (1/8) and Dutch (5/8)
  
• 1/9 pirate defeated - ranked 7/10
  
• 1/9 full pirate treasurer map waiting for me near Santiago
  
• 1/16 Raymondo found - second hinted
  
• 16 special artifacts (Including 2/2 swords, 1/2 armos, 2/2 skirts, 1/2 shoes 1/2 hats)
  
• A perfect dance with the beautiful daughter of Curacao - my wife to be
  
• She gave me a clue to Marquis Motalban near Santiago

Was pretty nice with the Spanish almost to the end - had to take a treasure ship and payroll ship ...

On this level I find this game very good for my current skills.
(A very poor in fast movements)

Damm - almost time to so that can go to work tomorrow with enough sleep - it feels like -> I just wanna and paly some more and more and more and more and more and ... (Feels just like 15 years ago - damm it's nice to be a [pirate] kid again )


Writing after a good straight three+ hour gaming session might make me a little unobjective right now... but who the f*** cares

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	13-12-2004 00:26									#136
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Dipping

To get this (see picture below), the Heart Monitor has to be HUGE, the dance has to be perfect or near-perfect (1 or 2 mistakes early, never late), and lots of flourishes (the spin). Note: At the higher difficulties, your response time to her moves & your mistakes is shortened (hit those keys quickly).


Unhappiness

If you possess the Concertina, the Cook & Quartermaster, you can go many months at unhappiness before they turn mutinous.

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	13-12-2004 00:39									#137
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Ahh, you certainly get a good look at her... tracts of land.

	13-12-2004 01:00									#138
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*Now* I get it.

	13-12-2004 01:11									#139
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First -- I have the game!
Second -- sail away from the Port and do not get a Letter of Marque.
Third -- why do you need the Governor's daughter, there are others?
Fourth -- with all the ship upgrades, and adding crew, and keeping them alive, and gaining experience, you should be able to keep your original ship and crew to finish a time period.
Fifth -- there are neutral cities to dispose of the loot, and if not, use the Jesuit Missionary Settlements to make peace with a Governor of a nearby city.
Sixth -- You should be able to end with your original ship upgraded and with your crew, making you the most Nortorius Pirate that ever sailed the Caribbean.
Seventh -- you can dance with your peg leg, I guess, someday, if you see fit to do that.
Eight -- use the Follow View (Chase view) of your ship, and zoom in or out all the way, with the plus and minus key of the numeric keypad.
Ninth -- you can use a laptop in the game by changing the KeyMap.ini file where the Saved games are at -- in MyDocuments -- My Games -- (folder used to install the game), the rest of the game is installed in that same folder you installed it into.
10th -- it is a Great Game, Made Better, and is total Fun, buy it, play it, live it!

The Evil Baron Raymondo should give you nightmares, and sometimes the military escorts of the other ships are carrying most of the gold. And the Treasure Fleet is in the game -- when you find it.
And quietly if you want -- go Insane or Crazy, and be a Nortorius Pirate by gaining experience for your crew and yourself, as you sail the Caribbean Sea.

Yarr!

The only thing a Pirate needs is the GOLD -- all the GOLD!
Sid and Jeff are such kidders in this game, to make it ESRB Everyone, follow the game, get the results or strike out on ye own, it is up to you!

And some players have played it for -- years!
It has a living economy you can help or hinder in an area, or areas, or if you can -- the entire map of the Caribbean.

Host the sails, and go at it!

	13-12-2004 01:12									#140
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Notice the focus of Threepwood's eyes. I think I'm not far off in saying they are not locked in a gaze with the lady in question.

	13-12-2004 01:18									#141
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And why do you need all that fancy getup anyway this game can give you?
Are ye not a Bloody Pirate to be chased down by every Nationality in the game until they are good and tired of you being a Nortorius Pirate?

Well, you decide in this game as to how to play it!

	13-12-2004 09:48									#142
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And the player can get the Indians to side with him and kick out the New World intruders. Easily a better game than Civilization. And have fun doing it also!
And leave the Jesuit Missionary Settlements there.
Kick them all out of the area!

YA! (rises arm to go off pirating!)
And the 3-D graphics are great!

Many ways to play this game, and much variety, afterall it is Sid Meier's first game!

And it still beats Civilization!
All that is needed is, of course, an Expansion Pack, and multi-player!

Maybe that could be done if you return your bounties to buy the game!

	13-12-2004 11:00									#143
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Am i the only one who likes the ship the Pinnacle? she lacks firepower and with triple hammocks can carry 90 men i think...... i scored one of these with four upgrades on it, sold me sloop and now am faster and thus avoid alot of enemy barrages.

I too have had issues with dancing...... i managed to get the large heart, and mini hearts 3/4 of the way around but i am not sure what i am doing wrong...

key is to press the right number as soon as it flashed correct???? b/c that is what i am doing, and its easy to geuss some of the pattersn... hitting key 8 or 2 is usually what screws me up.....i am not quick enough.

so far i haven't figured out how to look for lost treasure, but i have vanquished many of the the pirates....


and i sink ships all the time....some just explode......

do any of you pick up men in the water when they jump or fall overboard??? i do it all the time.....

as for morale, sigh, on the harder levels, its tough unless you get lucky in the beginning...b/c everything is so expensive....

for awhile i was cruising in the city sneaking up and conking the guards with the lanterns on the head, now they always turn around on me when i sneak up, and well i end up doing a few months in the slammer, unless i have the cash or the lock/picks to get out.....sneaking out is easy.

my biggest complaint, is the animation scenes repeat, as does EVERYTHING that you do in this game. The concept is fun, but its not worth what most of you paid for this game IMO of course.

a buddy burned me a copy to try, and while its cute, it doesn't take long to get the hang of what you need to do.....

Whats the best specialist? I like the gunner, thank god for him, but i dont' really understand what the sail or hull guys do? I mean i know what they do, but how its worked out while your at sea and they are doing repairs ect..... i need quantative numbers people....

nice to see some people are playing though......

	13-12-2004 11:46									#144
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever for awhile i was cruising in the city sneaking up and conking the guards with the lanterns on the head, now they always turn around on me when i sneak up, and well i end up doing a few months in the slammer, unless i have the cash or the lock/picks to get out.....sneaking out is easy.

Don't run when coming from behind - was a nasty lesson for me...

	13-12-2004 12:25									#145
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okie, i will give that a whirl...probably what i was doing wrong but never noticed before......


what i hate the most, is the long voyages...which often get interupted by the fact fresh prey come into my sights, and by the time i get to the port where the bugger is hiding, he has long gone.

or even worse, i am already at the destination, and he hasnt' arrived, and i plunder as much as i can and he never shows up?????

	13-12-2004 13:22									#146
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever what i hate the most, is the long voyages...which often get interupted by the fact fresh prey come into my sights, and by the time i get to the port where the bugger is hiding, he has long gone.

Nope - you have misunderstood the point.
That's the idea - It's about choices
Do you attack this or not
* Yes - some affects in one direction (cann't get in time)
* No - other effects
Closing one door - opens anothers

It's just like in real life too - you have to decide what's best for the whole picture. Accept this and you'll just love it.


And if that wasn't enough the pirate hunters will slow you down

	13-12-2004 19:40									#147
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever --- do any of you pick up men in the water when they jump or fall overboard??? i do it all the time..... ---

How do you do that?

	13-12-2004 20:13									#148
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quote: Originally posted by Chemical Ollie How do you do that?

You have to move your ship over the little guy in the water. You can also pick up the barrels in the water too.

	13-12-2004 20:29									#149
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What's in the barrels?

	13-12-2004 20:47									#150
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goods and gold...
iirc you got 50gold or something