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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat Now you got me confused, If i'm not wrong then there is place in london where anyone can stand up and state whatever they want. Is this just an old traditin or something to quell the current population ? or is it just ignored ?

Speakers' corner. I'm not sure if the legislation still exists, but that is the tradition. However if you were to stand there and racially abuse someone, you may well get arrested for it, though that may be with a loophole of it being heard outside speakers' corner, thus illegal. I don't know the law there, but the tradition is that any member of the public can voice their opinion there.

	04-12-2004 09:57									#32
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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat Watch out !!! Our royal guards also wear what you call "funny hats" - i don't know who stole it from who. Rain, of course it rains You jester about monarchy, well we have one also (older than the british ) and looking at how presidents around the world do stupid things, i'm relived that we have a queen.

I didnīt know that (except for the rain bit )

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There are many good series from them at Discovery Channel

	04-12-2004 10:41									#33
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w ankers!

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Rule Britannia.

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	04-12-2004 15:37									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer the real Prodigy is from Queens, NYC. MOBB DEEP!

LOL! Dear sweet gentle American, there's obviously been some sort of misunderstanding.


*real Proddigy is mob depp... giggle, giggle giggle*

	04-12-2004 16:09									#36
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The Prodigy

unknown fake american rappers .

UK:

just like in the US, I think about different parts of it, and different things come to mind. However, what I see in common is the empire, the war against the nazis, and that's it, and the behavior of the representatives of the empire, back then. all other thoughts are place-specific.

	04-12-2004 16:12									#37
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quote: Ni!!! Ni!!! Ni!!!

	04-12-2004 16:44									#38
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I agree with Pekka, we'll be very nice to you while we kill you - its been the tradition since our empire days!

1. Politeness for politeness sake(in nicer places).
2. kids that will kill you for a laugh(in bad places).
3. Spineless modern day politicians.
4. Summers that last a week or two, maybe with no rain in between.
5. Rain/Fog the rest of the time.
6. England(german+french invaders!),Scottish(Picts, Old Irish and Norsemen), Irish(firey natives), Welsh(song loving natives), Cornish(scary natives).
7. Earl Grey Tea.
8. Inventing many sports.
9. Gardening.
10. 1066

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	04-12-2004 16:47									#39
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quote: Why don't you guys have a constitution?

Too long a history - our constitution developed over time and changes to fit in with recent development/whims of the government. Hence why writing down a speech for children to recite at public events every few months would be pretty meaningless; we have more than a couple of hundred years of 'civilisation' to take into account.

Also, we are far too lazy and apathetic, preferring to 'go with the flow' and not worry about our precise rights etc. More of an ad hoc approach I guess.

A decent revoluition would sort us out, make everyting clear cut and mean we probably had a written constitution to make it official where we stood...but I kind of like bumbling along and hoping everything will sort itself out without too much needless paper work

	04-12-2004 16:56									#40
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England doesn't do revolutions. Even the civil wars are civil.

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My point exactly. The English are too polite for true progress.

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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Would you take it up the butt?

	04-12-2004 18:32									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Dauphin England doesn't do revolutions. Even the civil wars are civil.

Erm, don't believe the hype.


Massacres and atrocities litter the English Civil Wars- from the aftermath of the Battle of Philiphaugh when Montrose's followers were slaughtered, to the Cromwellian campaigns in Ireland and the English New Model Army's conduct at Sligo, Drogheda et cetera.

Monmouth's Rebellion in 1685 and the savage repression which followed were not characterized by an undue concern for social niceties.

The activities of the English Duke of Cumberland following the collapse of the Jacobite cause in 1745 prefigure the scenes of 'ethnic cleansing' witnessed in the Twentieth and Twenty First centuries.

And of course before the conflict of Crown and commons in the 17th Century, there were the various Peasants' Revolts- the best known against the Poll Tax, but also Ket's Revolt against enclosures, the most famous of the rebellions against the sequestering of previously common land by the landed gentry and the aristocracy.

Then of course there were the Brixton, Southall, Liverpool and Manchester Riots of 1981- none of which were characterized by scenes of rioters and police sipping tea and eating hot buttered muffins.

	04-12-2004 18:41									#44
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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom Erm, don't believe the hype.

I was making a reference to an old advert for British Airways.

	04-12-2004 18:47									#45
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You [the British] take a delicious oriental infusion - and dump cow juice in it. You invent a game [cricket] which no one else understands and the whole world still whips you at it. Your favourite dish is... curry!? [Shot of participants in an English Civil War battle re-enactment queueing to use a portable lavatory] Nowadays, even your Civil Wars are...civilised. And when it comes to sex, we all know what you prefer [shot of a cup of tea]

	04-12-2004 18:56									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Dauphin You [the British] take a delicious oriental infusion - and dump cow juice in it. You invent a game [cricket] which no one else understands and the whole world still whips you at it. Your favourite dish is... curry!? [Shot of participants in an English Civil War battle re-enactment queueing to use a portable lavatory] Nowadays, even your Civil Wars are...civilised. And when it comes to sex, we all know what you prefer [shot of a cup of tea]

I prefer a cup of tea in a cup to sexual intercourse in a cup.

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A nation of contrasts.

One the one hand we have a truly spectacular megalithic culture of ancient history. On the other hand we spend far more time celebrating the "history" of the crappier parts of the last century. We're spiritually mired in 1950.

We are reckoned to by the global home of politeness, yet are the probably the biggest binge-drinkers in the world, and our tourists are the inheritors of the legacies left by the Huns/Visigoths/Viking raiders.

We are a nation of entrepreneurs and inventors, yet have the largest proportion of unskilled and semi-skilled labour in western Europe.

We are supposed to be sexually repressed, yet have levels of teenaged pregnancy generally associated with the 3rd World.

	04-12-2004 23:25									#48
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Fried mars bars and fops.

	04-12-2004 23:41									#49
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! GOD SAVE THE QUEEN !

from fascist regime

	04-12-2004 23:50									#50
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She ain't no human being

	05-12-2004 00:15									#51
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No one mentioning tabloids?

Only European country never to occupy us ( I think, kinda tough to keep up. ).

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Give us chance

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quote: Originally posted by alva No one mentioning tabloids? Only European country never to occupy us ( I think, kinda tough to keep up. ).

Uhmm... It was the Brits' idea to add you to the Netherlands

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quote: Uhmm... It was the Brits' idea to add you to the Netherlands

Pfffff....

I've always said Holland is welcome to join Flanders.

quote: Give us chance

You'll have to go trough France before you....hmmm..., bugger.

	05-12-2004 00:57									#55
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quote: Originally posted by alva quote: Uhmm... It was the Brits' idea to add you to the Netherlands Pfffff.... I've always said Holland is welcome to join Flanders.

That's not what the Brits wanted.

They also put stupid Willem I on the throne here . Now we're stuck with the bloody monarchs

Revolution! Republic!


Which brings me back to the topic at hand:

the Continent...

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Glorious military tradition: Half a League, Half a League, Half a League Onward! Nelson, Wellington. Battle of Roarke's Drift. Gentleman Johnny Burgoine. Francis Drake! Once more into the breach! Battle of the Somme. Black Hole of Calcutta. Chinese Gordon.

Great traders: East India Company; founders of Hong Kong and Shanghai. The sun never sets . . . Tea into Boston Harbor.

Aristocracy. Culture and Dignity. Old castles.

Spelling of a lot of wourds with unnecessary u's.

Rain & fog.

	05-12-2004 12:00									#57
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"What a tragedy to have known, that all my life, I have been speaking nothing but the truth."

"Four gray walls, and four gray towers, envelope a space of flowers."

"From Marathon, to Waterloo, in order categorical."

"So be it when I shall grow old, or let me die!"

"And that one talent, which is death to hide."

"...that he bestride the world like a Colossus."

"Thy firmness makes my circle just, and makes me end where I begun."

"If it be a sin to covet honour, then I am the most offending sinner alive."

"It is the star to every wandering bark"

"Let truth and falsehood grapple, whoever knew truth to be the lesser, in a free and open encounter."

"Our dry voices when, we whisper together."

	05-12-2004 13:10									#58
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People who are very polite, very witty, have no chins, and can't hold their liquor.

That, and superb men's tailoring.

And the only tolerable pop music in Europe.

I love the UK

	05-12-2004 13:53									#59
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Crumbly grey cities perpetually encased in gloom.

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quote: Originally posted by Zkribbler Great traders: East India Company; founders of Hong Kong and Shanghai. The sun never sets . . . Tea into Boston Harbor.

Hong Kong or Shanghai had existed before the Brits came along.