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laurentius
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Helsinki, Finland
Jun 2001
time: 07:17
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Yes Yes Yes OK. Operation Peace, Poppies and Indefinite Justice was the only part of WoT that can be classified as war. Therefore I will quote you something: "Article 4
A. Prisoners of war, in the sense of the present Convention, are persons belonging to one of the following categories, who have fallen into the power of the enemy:
1. Members of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict as well as members of militias or volunteer corps forming part of such armed forces.
2. Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including those of organized resistance movements, belonging to a Party to the conflict and operating in or outside their own territory, even if this territory is occupied, provided that such militias or volunteer corps, including such organized resistance movements, fulfil the following conditions:
(a) That of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates;
(b) That of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance;
(c) That of carrying arms openly;
(d) That of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war.
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6. Inhabitants of a non-occupied territory, who on the approach of the enemy spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading forces, without having had time to form themselves into regular armed units, provided they carry arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war."
AQ fighters in my opinion meet those criteria. Therefore they are POWs
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Pekka
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em seu burro dos pais!
Feb 2002
time: 07:17
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No, you said spy by definition can be subjected to what ever government wants to do with them.
So, if your industrial spy is caught in here, by that very definition we can torture him and execute him and you can't say a word to it.
If you NOW want to enlarge the definition of a spy, and that there might be scenarios where spy shouldn't be subjected to any means necessary by a government, or foreign government, then your whole arguments goes to bunkers, plus you need to take a new look at your ealrier arguments as well.
"The government can do whatever it wants, pretty much, with its own citizens."
By this you want to say what ever Saddam did was acceptable, not good but acceptable? And other dictators as well. Uhmm.. come on Kuci, you know better than that. Seems to me you're trying to argue in points where you don't disagree with your opponents, but you seem to need to build obstacles everywhere you can around your main arguments and points, but that's a bad tactic at the end, as it is easy to point out inconsitencies in them, just like the spy thing. And the government can do what ever they want with there citizens. It can, in physical form, it can do what ever it wants, I mean who's going to stop them, but that's not what you meant.
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09-12-2004 00:56
at all the knuckle heads in this thread. Then again, it's the better tier of knuckle heads, go ahead check otu any other forum and you might kill yourself. 
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