21-12-2004 23:32									#31
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Come on down, rabbitman, we need you!

Stu

	21-12-2004 23:52									#32
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I'm pressed for time at the moment, so a quick posting of exactly how this game works would be helpful. Is it some sort of inter-site competition?

Plus, of course, a zipped file to d/l and check out.

	21-12-2004 23:59									#33
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We're playing a "best ball" succession - we all try to play every turnset and then use RCC to determine which of the offerings gives the best position - at 3000BC it was decided to run with mine - so if you wish to join in take my save - zipped to follow this and play until 2000BC ...
Good luck

Cheers, Stu

Attachment: ca_b3000.zip
This has been downloaded 4 time(s).

	22-12-2004 03:57									#34
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Welcome Rabbit ! You can find the original idea in Stu's thread, with some rules at the top of this one. Then look over the two spoiler threads the MGE team has used so far, and hop in. All the threads are in this same forum (civ2-general/help).

	22-12-2004 09:03									#35
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Jump in, JBunny! One of the virtues of this game is that you can play any turnset you want -- if you're busy, just play the set that's up when you've got time. (That's my plan.) We're delighted to have you here.

	22-12-2004 09:46									#36
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Good to see you out and about, Bunnyman!! Too bad you are a MacMan and cannot play 2.42. There seems to be a lack of participants in that venue. Is this team thing going to work??

Monk

	23-12-2004 08:46									#37
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Monk, if Elephant and skrobism don't play for team 2.42 soon, you and LaFayette can either join team MGE or play on alone. There is a chance someone (solo? straybow? STYOM?) might show up and join you. I can join 2.42 if nobody objects - but I have seen the map, the MGE spoiler, etc, and would have some advantage.
If JRabbit actively joins MGE, maybe an MGE player could switch teams? Just some ideas.

I will be away a few days, so this thread will enter a brief period of anarchy... not to say it has been exactly a "tight ship", so far. You and LF can decide about 2.42, if you want.

	23-12-2004 11:18									#38
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I could switch teams, if that would help. I've got both versions.

	23-12-2004 21:01									#39
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Elephants are often late...

I tried the start last night, and had a wierd occurance. I brought it to my other machine to see if it was machine-dependent, but it was not.

My thinking was: based on the visible Silk and some map analysis, there seems to be a possibility that (4,52) could be a Whale, and I noted that the fiendish game designer left that tile black. So I moved my Warrior westward first to see if it was, but despite being at (6,52) the tile stayed black! I was about to move the Settler that way when I clicked on the black tile to record its location and it turned blue! Later I went back to the starting save and experimented with it. Moving the Settler SW only turns one quarter of the tile blue (the quarter closest to the Settler, which still does not tell you if there is a Whale).

I tried this at home on an XP machine running 2.42, then tried it at work on a Win98 machine. I have not seen this action before - could it be the result of "Cheat Mode" editting of visible terrain? I'm puzzled.

Also when I clicked "End of Turn" the game clock stayed on 4000BC - looks like it was reset as well. I wonder if the Turn Number was reset too - could affect some of the Restart percentages that Andu Indorin has been discovering.

Last edited by Elephant on 23-12-2004 at 21:18

	23-12-2004 21:43									#40
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E - Glad to see you here!! I confess to messing around in cheat mode with the turn number and techs, but not with the terrain or specials.

	24-12-2004 11:41									#41
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I noticed the repeat 4000 BC too.

Peaster, most of the land specials are hidden -- you really didn't do that?

	24-12-2004 15:44									#42
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Am I the only one who hasn;t fired up HutFinder - what irony!

Stu

	24-12-2004 21:37									#43
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Well, I'm not using it for play -- all I did was verify for myself that there was an exceptionally high percentage of "missing" specials. Still, the irony is wonderful!

	24-12-2004 21:46									#44
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I usually use a blank map in MapEditor, drawing things in as I explore. In this one it took a while to figure out the Resource Seed, due to the missing huts and hidden specials. I think I had four possibilities at the start, narrowed it to two when I found the Whale, and finalized it when I found the hut.

	31-12-2004 21:32									#45
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Here is the situation a few hours before the end of 2004:
Elephant and La Fayette are the active players. Bloody Monk is lurker and adviser. skrobism is supposed to be a member of the team, but hasn't posted yet.
Elephant's save has been chosen in 3000BC. I have played the next millenium. Anyone willing to join us is welcome.

BTW Peaster have you a deadline in mind (for the choice of the 2000BC save) ?

	01-01-2005 01:46									#46
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I have returned to end the anarchy and take the throne !! (2005 must be an oedo year). The deadline for posting 2000BC saves is Jan 6th. The hyperactive MGE team is already posting 1000BC saves! Feel free to post before the deadline.

@debeest - No, I don't know how to hide a special. Maybe the large proportion of grass in your homeland caused this.

	05-01-2005 03:26									#47
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You hide a special by covering it with Grass. Just seemed like an awful lot of hidden ones on our home island, I thought that was more "tweaking" by our devious dungeonmaster.

	05-01-2005 04:50									#48
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I think everyone has posted their 2000BC saves and hindsights. You can pick the team best and continue. The deadline for posting 1000BC saves will be Thurs, Jan 13.

I am impressed by the discussions of both teams.

	08-01-2005 02:05									#49
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I'm back, and am available to play either version, and have yet to read either spoiler thread.

If I don't hear a strong response otherwise, I'll read the 2.42 thread sometime late this weekend...

	08-01-2005 02:39									#50
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Please join us, OnS - Bloody Monk has not been heard from in a while, so it's just LF and me holding the fort, while the MGE team has 4 players. We need a tie-breaker on our 2000BC save (assuming we cannot proceed on two at once). And we are WAY behind in posts on our spoiler thread!

	08-01-2005 08:42									#51
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OnS - I agree. The 2.42 team has made a good start, but they are outnumbered by the MGE team. You can download the two latest 2.42 saves and help your team pick the best one.

	08-01-2005 13:42									#52
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OnS, you are welcome as a member of the winning team
(quality better than quantity )

Please, help us choose the better 2000 save and increase our leadership.

(Bloody Monk wrote about a medical check up a fortnight ago: I'm afraid the results were not fully satisfying )

	13-01-2005 21:19									#53
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Perhaps Peaster, as game mod, could post a summary of the positions of each team at each save point? Team242 has reached 1000BC, but only two active players...

	13-01-2005 23:05									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Elephant Team242 has reached 1000BC, but only two active players...

It should be 3 active players, since OldnSlow agreed to join us, but today is the last day for 1000Bc saves...

(well, he has 5 hours left by my watch )

	13-01-2005 23:39									#55
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The key word was "active"...

	14-01-2005 00:20									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Elephant Perhaps Peaster, as game mod, could post a summary of the positions of each team at each save point? Team242 has reached 1000BC, but only two active players...

Yes, it would probably be interesting for the players to know how the competition is doing. IMHO this is a slight change in the rules, so I'll allow a few days for people to object before I post anything. Maybe the MGE players prefer secrecy...?

	14-01-2005 03:37									#57
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IMO what would be interesting would be to read the discussion between the members of the other team (so that we can have a good laugh at the ugly mistakes made by those "golden" people ... and vice versa ).

Why not start a second spoiler thread for each team (for example starting from 1000BC) and allowing members of the other team to read the previous thread after a while (for example after having played to 500BC)?

	14-01-2005 04:03									#58
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Guys, I'm having a helluva time D/Ling. Whether downloading a zipped save, or zipping a full save and emailing to my Mac, all I get is bloated text files when I unzip. The game (or the comp) doesn't recognize them, and they don't appear as available files on the list of games I can open.

I've switched to a G3 Cube (Mac) and OSX.3.4. Tried the ZipIt shareware I used to use, and it doesn't help. Posted this issue in the Mac forum, but that's so slow I thought I'd re-post here, hoping there might be a helpful soul about.

anyway... hope all are well...

	14-01-2005 05:10									#59
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A rabbit unable to unzip is certainly not the kind of rabbit we are happy with.
IIRC grigor is a MacUser and posts here quite often: grigor

stu is not a MacUser but he knows a lot about files:
stu

	14-01-2005 09:49									#60
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I am eager to read the 2.42 thread, and happy to share the MGE thread with our worthy competitors. We've all played to 1000, and I've played to 500, though I haven't posted it yet because no one else appears to be there yet.