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Author Says Environmentalists Are 'Fomenting False Fears'
Michael Crichton poses questions about global warming in a new thriller about eco-terrorists called "State of Fear." (Jim Cooper/AP APhoto)
By JOHN STOSSEL

Dec. 10, 2004 — So often what you think you know may not be so. And it's a reason I love the book just out from America's top-selling thriller writer, Michael Crichton. He's the man who created the popular TV medical drama "ER," wrote "Jurassic Park," which ranks among the top 10 grossing films of all time, and much more.

Crichton's books and movies have grossed more than $4 billion. Now, he's tackling global warming in his latest techno-thriller, "State of Fear."


Crichton is an extraordinarily bright man. He paid his way through Harvard Medical School writing his thrillers. He told "20/20" he based "E.R." on what he witnessed as a med student at Harvard. "It was just experiences that I had had in the emergency room," Crichton said.

He says Anthony Edwards' and Noah Wiley's characters on "E.R." are based on him, describing them as "a little fumbling, not sure of themselves — nice people."

When he wrote "The Andromeda Strain," the story of an organism from outer space that threatens to wipe out mankind, Hollywood came calling, and his medical career was over.


Ideas Ahead of Their Time

Thirty-five years later he is still meticulously melding fiction with cutting-edge science, which continues to open him up to criticism.


He was called anti-science when he wrote about the perils of manipulating DNA for cloning in "Jurassic Park." After writing "Disclosure," the story of a man who is sexually harassed by his female boss, he was labeled a sexist. But he was also prescient. At the time of "Jurassic Park," few people talked about cloning. Now it's often in the headlines. And sexual harassment of both women and men has been featured in newsmagazines.

Will he be similarly ahead of his time with his new book? "State of Fear" expresses skepticism of the claim that global warming is real and imminent.

The controversy the book is bound to stir up almost kept Crichton from writing the book. "I'm 62 years old. I've had a good life. I'm happy and I'm enjoying myself," he said. "I don't need any of the flak that would come from doing a book like this."
In response to the use of its public service announcement in this "20/20's" segment, the Union of Concerned Scientists sent the following statement:

Environmentalists Fomenting False Fears?


He spent three years researching "State of Fear." It's a thriller with footnotes, graphs and scientific references. In it he argues that the threat of global warming has been exaggerated by environmentalists.

"I'm saying that environmental organizations are fomenting false fears in order to promote agendas and raise money," he said.

In "State of Fear," environmental groups set off terrorist acts to focus attention on global warming.

Crichton agrees the Earth is getting warmer. But he says there is little to worry about because the climate is always changing and there is no evidence to determine if the changes are manmade or natural. In fact he says, climate scientists admit they can't predict what temperatures will be in 100 years.

"My view of this is that the media is like the guy going down the street with a sign that says 'The End of the World is Near,' and he picks a date and the day comes and goes, and the world doesn't end. So he doesn't stop with the sign. He goes home, makes another sign, puts a new date on it, and starts marching again. That's the way the media is," Crichton said.

He argues that researchers who study global warming often exaggerate the problem in order to get grants, often using celebrities to promote their cause.

By taking on global warming, Crichton hopes to ease some people's worries.

"I don't know what it is. We seem to be very ready to think it's all coming to an end. At least take in the possibility that actually everything might be going to be OK," he said.



In response to the use of its public service announcement in this "20/20's" segment, the Union of Concerned Scientists sent the following statement:

Technologies exist today that can cut emissions of heat-trapping gases and make a real difference in the health of our planet. These changes often have other positive benefits such as improving air quality, saving consumers money, reducing our dependence on oil, and creating new jobs and business opportunities.

Our political and business leaders have a responsibility to help move us toward a cleaner energy future. Public investments should shift away from polluting fossil fuels to support for clean renewable energy such as wind and solar power, more fuel-efficient vehicles, and more energy-efficient technologies. People from all walks of life can play a role in slowing global warming by advocating for smarter government policies, better corporate practices, and informed consumer choices.

We hope Michael Crichton fans enjoy his new science-fiction thriller, while keeping in mind there is a very strong consensus among the vast majority of climate scientists that global warming is under way and human activity is a primary cause. Every time we drive a car, use electricity from coal-fired power plants, or heat our homes with oil or natural gas, we release carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases into the air.



Anyone who has read Jurassic Park should not be surprised by this.

Michael Crichton

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I bet he still writes boring action sequences.

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If he isn't careful they will burn his house down.

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Does he still explain everything in mind numbing detail?

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It's one one the things I really like about his writing.

Crichton defines hardcore sci-fi.

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Crichton defines hardcore sci-fi.




Try some Forward next time.

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Crichton is my favorite author. In fact, he's the only one I've ever read on a regular basis.

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My view of this is that the media is like the guy going down the street with a sign that says 'The End of the World is Near,' and he picks a date and the day comes and goes, and the world doesn't end. So he doesn't stop with the sign. He goes home, makes another sign, puts a new date on it, and starts marching again. That's the way the media is," Crichton said.


I hate to poke fun at Christian fundies (no I dont), but there are quite a few who've done the same thing with Jesus' return. But he's right, and I believe he's right about global warming. I've seen the graphs showing climates going back 10s of thousands of years and we are well within the norm.

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Every time we drive a car, use electricity from coal-fired power plants, or heat our homes with oil or natural gas, we release carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases into the air.


Doesn't vegetation need CO2? I'm not much of a bio-scientologist but the earth recycles stuff I thought. I do know how to see patterns and I've seen one in those graphs - the ice sheets come and they go and we've already had a lengthy period of warming. Find whats causing that pattern and worry about that, not the nice time we've had over the last ~10,000 years.

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The general idea is that the environment is balanced and too much of one thing will topple it. However, it's probably not as delicate as some believe. Most systems in ecology have evolved over time to deal with changes in the environment. Still, I looked outside my window this morning and decided it would be healthier to stay inside.

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But he's right, and I believe he's right about global warming. I've seen the graphs showing climates going back 10s of thousands of years and we are well within the norm.


Crichton is so bright that he knows more than ecologists and climate scientists with regards to global warming.

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Doesn't vegetation need CO2? I'm not much of a bio-scientologist but the earth recycles stuff I thought.


Good point.

Unfortunately we are cutting away the biggest CO2 receptors (the rain forests) at an alarming rate.

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germanos: AFAIK, the biggest acceptors of CO2 are vegitative plankton

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You're right.


Still, I think the shrinking of the (rain)forests causes serious problems for the earth's ecosystem to absorb the increased CO2 levels (let alone that the logging contributes significantly to these risng levels)

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It wouldn't do so, it it were done in the form of tree farms. ( Trees that are being cut after a couple of years, and then new ones planted ). Those would actually increase CO2 consumption per area of forest.

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Ah, but we're not doing that


There are certainly possibilities to try to get a sort of CO2 balance. Research is being done to have cars run on (vegatable)oil, and for this yearly crops could be planted.

Note though that will need active human input, and that is not what Berz was hinting at (AFAIK). To assume that nature will take care of the increased CO2 by itself is wishfull thinking.
(disclaimer: offcourse Nature will take care of the problem. The issue is if mankind will have a role in the 'new balance' )

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Wow, he has a new book out again? Seems like the older he gets, the faster he writes... Okay, I'm off to the book store in a few minutes!

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Yes!!

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Crichton is my favorite author. In fact, he's the only one I've ever read on a regular basis.


Same here

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Crichton is so bright that he knows more than ecologists and climate scientists with regards to global warming.


No, he just knows that nobody knows that much about global warming.

Humans show a distinct talent for latching onto new science and running with it -- often into a wall or off a cliff. The one theme he has always written into his novels is that science and technology must be treated with care -- that the "dwarves astride the shoulders of giants" remain dwarves.

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I like the way he condemns researchers for using celebrities to promote their cause. Because he's the only celebrity whose viewpoint matters, of course

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You have an odd definition of celebrity.

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Reminds me of Tom Clancy's "Rainbow Six"

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Humans show a distinct talent for latching onto new science and running with it -- often into a wall or off a cliff. The one theme he has always written into his novels is that science and technology must be treated with care -- that the "dwarves astride the shoulders of giants" remain dwarves.



Sounds like a luddite.

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You have an odd definition of luddite.

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I think he is correct

as do a number of other people I know (many quite bright)

I don't think there is any chance that we screw up the world when global warming

we might make it unpleasent for us to live on, but that is about it (and it would require a lot mroe effort than we have put into it)

far more important is the polluting of water, we make areas where nothing can live

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(I care about the environment, I just think that global warming is not very important and I think that by putting money into global warming and not into toxity we are misusing resources)

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You have an odd definition of luddite.


Most people do.

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Its well established that (1) Human activity is rapidly incressing the CO2 level in the atmospher (2) this is raising the tempurature of the planet. The only things in question is how change is going to happen and how disruptive it will be for us. As long as he dosen't try to bash thouse 2 points then he wont be in the wrong.

I think if we get off with it equivilent of "bad" weather ever year (like a bad hurricane season or a bad rainfall meaning a year of weather that would normaly happen once every 10 years becomes the norm) then we could count outselves lucky and adjust with out too much trouble.

Some kind of doomsday senario like melting the Ice caps or enter an ice age is a rather wild conjecture at this point (but ofcorse the first 2 points I made were wild conjecture back in the 70's, more research needs to be done ofcorse).

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While I think Chrichton is a great author, I've never liked his arrogance that he thinks he knows more than the experts in the field. It's like Sava arguing with MtG.

It's possible that humans aren't behind climate change, and that this is within normal varioations. The problem is, if you're wrong, by the time we find out, it will be too late to fix it. You're like the guy in the canoe being warned that the reason the canoe is going faster is because you're headed towards a waterfall, and you reply that variations in waterspeed are normal within a river and we should continue going full speed ahead.

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I really hope that since he is now done with his book, he will rerelease his classic CalTech lecture "Aliens Cause Global Warming." The UCS' citation of scientific concensus as something important is blown out of the water in that speech.

He's something of a hero of mine, even though I haven't read any of his books and haven't watched any of his movies except part of Andromeda Strain.

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Ah yes, he did put it back up on his web site.

Aliens Cause Global Warming

http://www.michaelcrichton.com/spee...es_quote04.html

 
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