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Blackcat, in Dafor they are all moslems. There is an ethnic/racial and power fight, but if they had enough water it would be much easier to work things out. National Geographic back in the 1980's had some excellent analysis that water would become the next major source of conflict. I wanted to use the Palestinian/Isreali conflict, but I'd get stomped all over and really hijack the thread. 
If you look at my first post, Crichton is no cutting edge author, and he's lazy to boot. A sophmore level biology major, alright, a gifted sophmore level biology major, can cut the Andromeda Strain to shreds and that was back in the 70's! They might need to be a junior (embryology and genetics) for Jurassic Park. He deals in pseudo-science pap, with just enough science to make those who don't know the field to think it's believable. It's the same thing as Star Trek and astronomy/physics, in may "sound" like science, but often it's anything but (I wanted to scream in the episode where Voyager had to deal with the physical "crack" in an event horizen).
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United States of America
Jan 1970
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Projected, UR. You have to read the whole thread. I quoted, and it was ignored. Then I cut the quote, and it was ignored. Eventually, I arrived at the bit you quoted.
Ted has been ignoring growth and the future, so I thought it was kosher to do likewise. |
Ah, if you look at the trend line, the same one the article is basing its 20 year predictions off of you will notice that the line WAS CORRECTED.
It's ignored because it's 20 years into the future, and an irrelevent assumption.
50 years ago, there were predictions of flying cars. Well tell me, where are the flying cars!!?!!?!? (note: Moller SkyCar doesn't count)
Kinda hard to accept a projection when the opening part of it, which should be the easiest part to predict, isn't even close, and in fact moves in the opposite direction.
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Ted Striker
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time: 21:17
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I'm still waiting for him to show where CA is heavy on heavy industry, or even how it amounts to much at all. All I've got so far is that he can see a refinery from his bedroom window, and that chemicals are big. Well, they are 6th in US states in chemical manufacture.
We're still waiting for Ted to explain this, or in fact, to have any facts at all other than the bedroom window view. |
It's a nice tactic for you to try and frame the debate on this whole caveat of heavy industry, but unfortunatley it doesn't work out.
I have already provided plenty of real world examples (note: not future projections) of areas in China where there have been heavy industry AND reductions in pollution.
Speaking of igoring, you are ignoring every other type of industry or activity (mainly transportation), all of which has increased in magnitude in California, that can increase pollution without controls in place. Yet even though these potential envrionmental loads have gone up, the air quality has continued to improve.
It's a nice tactic but sorry it doesn't work. 
By the way, for those of you watching at home, some assorted facts (the latest I could find):
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What's the major industry in Los Angeles? The standard cliché is that it's the movie industry. But manufacturing outweighs it with a 2000 average of 629,400 jobs in Los Angeles County, 2.5 times the movie industry's average of 255,300. Adding in the three surrounding metropolitan areas pushes the Southern California area's manufacturing base to 1,025,300 jobs.
Kyser noted that in 2000 Los Angeles County was nudged out of first place by Chicago as the nation's largest manufacturing sector. However, the job differential was small, only 2,100.
Some industry sectors are posting small year-to-year gains in 2001, including stone, clay & glass; electronic components; instruments; and chemical products. |
http://www.laedc.org/data/Press/PR43.shtml
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Interesting info shawnmmcc
Here's an interesting graphic, the top 5 areas that have improved air quality over the last 20 years are ALL in Southern California. All of these areas have grown in population, economy, and number of vehicles on the road, yet have improved air quality.
LA still has the worst air but has also made the most improvement overall.
http://www.cleanairprogress.org/top_20/index.asp
 Attachment: calipolluters.jpg
This has been downloaded 47 time(s).
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Thanks UR, I was trying to avoid assembling various cites because my posts are the result of reading probably at this point over 100 articles, and I wasn't taking notes like I would have in college. The effort would have taken me hours or days. What's interesting is that he points to 5,200 years ago, and Paleontological records show some interesting things happening to native American populations in that 7000-5200 year span.
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18-12-2004 04:30
to see that we agree on several points, but :
- could it be ... no, no, that would be cruel - maybe it's Ted Striker !!! Maybe every time the Ted ego writes something hopeless, the BlackCat ego takes control and tries to reduce the damage. 
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