16-12-2004 08:10									#91
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quote: Originally posted by alva Clapton Metalica

well, what do you like? so we can make fun of it

	16-12-2004 08:21									#92
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quote: Originally posted by Japher In the 80s John Williams was the conductor of the Boston Pops and revitalized classical music... even it was in a Bernstein fashion

Eh? That's a bizarre thesis.

	16-12-2004 08:33									#93
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From the 80'ties ( or there about)

Hmm, let's see:

XTC -
Human League - Being boiled
U2
Simple Minds
Ann Clarke
Transvision Vamp - I want your love
Tears fro Fears
Tenpole Tudor - Wunderbar
Talking Heads -
Supertramp -
Suzanne Vega
Stranglers -
The Police
The Specials -
Sonic youth -
Smiths -
Siouxie and the Banshees -
ShriekBack
Dead Can dance
Severed Heads
Kissing the Pink
Primitives - Crash
Pixies
PIL
OMD
No more - Suicide commando
Nitzerr Ebb
Neon judgement
Gary Newman
Kraftwerk
Killing Joke
Joy division
Art of nosie
Departement S - Is Vic there?
Dead Kennedys
DAF
Cure
Cabaret Voltaire ( though partly 70'ties, if not most)
Big Black
Belgian Assosiality
Bauhaus
Arno/TC Matic
Arbeid Adelt
Red Zebra - I can't lice in a living room
Jah Wobble - How much are they?
The Normal - Warm Leatherette
Patti Smith

That should be enough for now.

	16-12-2004 08:39									#94
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You girly emo losers!!!

quote: Your Feline Beauty Is Physical Proof That Love Is Woman Baby, Love Is The Truth Well I Ain't A Woman That's For Sure I'll Say Anything To Get You On The Floor You Look So Fine Pure And Good I Wanna Throw You On The Ground Babe And Cover You In Mud Silver Tongued But I Ain't No Liar Baby Baby Baby Set My Bed On Fire I'm The Tattooed Beat Messiah Baby Nobody Can Take You Higher I'm The Reverb Saint I'm The King Of Flies I Think You Guessed I Ain't Like Other Guys Lay Down, Lie Back, Shut Up, Submit Peel It Off Baby This Is It. I Got A Six Shooting Schizo Psycho Rod Kiss The Barrel Baby Meet Your God Sparkle Dust At My Finger Tips Gonna Burn Your Butt, Bruise Your Lips I'm The Tattooed Beat Messiah I Said Nobody Can Take You Higher This Gun Never Waits This Gun Devestates Crystal Clear I Got A Diamond Shot Gonna Kill You Twice Baby I'm Red Hot Lots Of Girls Tried They Lied And Died Got To Close To The Starry Host Grease Baby Dirt Trash Sex Appeal Zip Fly Pop I Feel Too Real Kill Me Tattooed Beat Messiah.

	16-12-2004 08:53									#95
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quote: Eh? That's a bizarre thesis.

It is, and I can make it work. Bernstein and Williams both worked for the movie industry,

Want me to write a paper about?

	16-12-2004 09:37									#96
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How many times have you listened to an album and discovered that the one they released as a single is tripe because that's what gets airplay?

It galls me that producers don't want to risk releasing something with a little bit of depth to it.

	16-12-2004 09:52									#97
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quote: Originally posted by alva From the 80'ties ( or there about) Hmm, let's see: XTC - Human League - Being boiled U2 Simple Minds Ann Clarke Transvision Vamp - I want your love Tears fro Fears Tenpole Tudor - Wunderbar Talking Heads - Supertramp - Suzanne Vega Stranglers - The Police The Specials - Sonic youth - Smiths - Siouxie and the Banshees - ShriekBack Dead Can dance Severed Heads Kissing the Pink Primitives - Crash Pixies PIL OMD No more - Suicide commando Nitzerr Ebb Neon judgement Gary Newman Kraftwerk Killing Joke Joy division Art of nosie Departement S - Is Vic there? Dead Kennedys DAF Cure Cabaret Voltaire ( though partly 70'ties, if not most) Big Black Belgian Assosiality Bauhaus Arno/TC Matic Arbeid Adelt Red Zebra - I can't lice in a living room Jah Wobble - How much are they? The Normal - Warm Leatherette Patti Smith That should be enough for now.

some good stuff in there. Some other stuff I've never heard of.

I also liked the Eurythmics and the Pretenders. At least the stuff I heard on the radio I liked. I don't have any of their albums or anything.

	16-12-2004 10:35									#98
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Samual Barber's Adagio for Strings, when played right, can get me choked up. It can be a very melancholy but beautiful piece, the version I believe by one of the Canadian Symphony Orchestras is my favorite, I'd need to yank the disc out of the changer and I'm not up to fighting with it.

Five for Fighting - 100 years. It was playing on the radio as I drove into work for the graveyard shift right after I found out my sister's husband had been shot and killed in Iraq. I already liked the song, and when it gets to the "I'm thirty-three for a moment..." I lose it.

FIVE FOR FIGHTING LYRICS

100 Years


I'm 15 for a moment
Caught in between 10 and 20
And I'm just dreaming
Counting the ways to where you are

I'm 22 for a moment
She feels better than ever
And we're on fire
Making our way back from Mars

15 there's still time for you
Time to buy and time to lose
15, there's never a wish better than this
When you only got 100 years to live

I'm 33 for a moment
Still the man, but you see I'm a they
A kid on the way
A family on my mind

I'm 45 for a moment
The sea is high
And I'm heading into a crisis
Chasing the years of my life

15 there's still time for you
Time to buy, Time to lose yourself
Within a morning star

15 I'm all right with you
15, there's never a wish better than this
When you only got 100 years to live

Half time goes by
Suddenly you're wise
Another blink of an eye
67 is gone
The sun is getting high
We're moving on...

I'm 99 for a moment
Dying for just another moment
And I'm just dreaming
Counting the ways to where you are

15 there's still time for you
22 I feel her too
33 you're on your way
Every day's a new day...

15 there's still time for you
Time to buy and time to choose
Hey 15, there's never a wish better than this
When you only got 100 years to live

	16-12-2004 14:18									#99
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Ganger - that was hilarious!

Oh that was Turbonegro - Just flesh, by the way.
Quite emotional stuff.

	16-12-2004 14:43									#100
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Most of the good stuff was underground, Asher. Even some of the earlier New Wave was pretty good, but by '86 anything on the radio was garbage.

The arrival of grunge on the scene changed that for a too short span of time; the late 90's was just as bad as the late 80's.

	16-12-2004 16:06									#101
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quote: Originally posted by Japher totally lame jokes

Ashers taste in music

	16-12-2004 18:41									#102
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All my bags are packed I'm ready to go
I'm standin' here outside your door
I hate to wake you up to say goodbye
But the dawn is breakin' it's early morn
The taxi's waitin' he's blowin' his horn
Already I'm so lonesome I could die

So kiss me and smile for me
Tell me that you'll wait for me
Hold me like you'll never let me go
Cause I'm leavin' on a jet plane
Don't know when I'll be back again
Oh babe, I hate to go

There's so many times I've let you down
So many times I've played around
I tell you now, they don't mean a thing
Every place I go, I'll think of you
Every song I sing, I'll sing for you
When I come back, I'll bring your wedding ring

So kiss me and smile for me
Tell me that you'll wait for me
Hold me like you'll never let me go
Cause I'm leavin' on a jet plane
Don't know when I'll be back again
Oh babe, I hate to go

Now the time has come to leave you
One more time let me kiss you
Close your eyes I'll be on my way
Dream about the days to come
When I won't have to leave alone
About the times, I won't have to say

So kiss me and smile for me
Tell me that you'll wait for me
Hold me like you'll never let me go
Cause I'm leavin' on a jet plane
Don't know when I'll be back again
Oh babe, I hate to go

Cause I'm leavin' on a jet plane
Don't know when I'll be back again
Oh babe, I hate to go

	16-12-2004 18:53									#103
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quote: Originally posted by alva From the 80'ties ( or there about) Hmm, let's see: XTC - Human League - Being boiled U2 Simple Minds Ann Clarke Transvision Vamp - I want your love Tears fro Fears Tenpole Tudor - Wunderbar Talking Heads - Supertramp - Suzanne Vega Stranglers - The Police The Specials - Sonic youth - Smiths - Siouxie and the Banshees - ShriekBack Dead Can dance Severed Heads Kissing the Pink Primitives - Crash Pixies PIL OMD No more - Suicide commando Nitzerr Ebb Neon judgement Gary Newman Kraftwerk Killing Joke Joy division Art of nosie Departement S - Is Vic there? Dead Kennedys DAF Cure Cabaret Voltaire ( though partly 70'ties, if not most) Big Black Belgian Assosiality Bauhaus Arno/TC Matic Arbeid Adelt Red Zebra - I can't lice in a living room Jah Wobble - How much are they? The Normal - Warm Leatherette Patti Smith That should be enough for now.

Not forgetting The Birthday Party, Einsturzende Neubauten, Grace Jones, Marianne Faithfull, Brian Eno, Byrne/Eno's 'My Life in the Bush of Ghosts', Fad Gadget, Jon Hassell, Harold Budd, John Cale, Christina, Philip Glass and Laurie Anderson, The Cocteau Twins, The Associates, The B52s..... and that's without even touching on the folk and roots releases.

Yes there's plenty to be grateful to the 80s for. No Pop Idol, American Idol, Big Brother, Paris Hilton, No Talent Osborne Daughter, etc, etc.....

	16-12-2004 19:56									#104
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And both of y'all forgot REM.

	16-12-2004 20:05									#105
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT And both of y'all forgot REM.

I did mean to mention 'Green', honest.....

	17-12-2004 02:59									#106
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..or Luc van Acker
http://houbi.com/belpop/groups/vanacker.htm

	17-12-2004 05:42									#107
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quote: Originally posted by Japher It is, and I can make it work. Bernstein and Williams both worked for the movie industry, Want me to write a paper about?

Aside from transporting West Side Story to the screen, Bernstein had little if anything to do with the movie industry. Where did you get that from?

But I'm more curious as to your assertion that Williams "revitalized" interest in classical music. I don't see this as true at all. The 1960s and 1970s were great decades in terms of recordings and great performances by legendary conductors. Especially since the decades preceding the 80s were the height of Bernstein's career!

Don't forget that Arthur Fiedler was leading the Boston Pops long before Williams, and to great popularity. I would say he is more fondly remembered as the conductor of that ensemble than Williams is thought of today.

Williams made a great contribution to symphonic cinematic scores, but that's wholly seperate from the realm of classical music performances.

	17-12-2004 16:56									#108
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Back to the original topic (sorry) a song that has made me cry since I was about 6, before I knew what half the lyrics meant. Heard it last night at an xmas party and it would appear it still has the same effect:

quote: It was christmas eve babe In the drunk tank An old man said to me, won’t see another one And then he sang a song The rare old mountain dew I turned my face away And dreamed about you Got on a lucky one Came in eighteen to one I’ve got a feeling This year’s for me and you So happy christmas I love you baby I can see a better time When all our dreams come true They’ve got cars big as bars They’ve got rivers of gold But the wind goes right through you It’s no place for the old When you first took my hand On a cold christmas eve You promised me Broadway was waiting for me You were handsome You were pretty Queen of new york city When the band finished playing They howled out for more Sinatra was swinging, All the drunks they were singing We kissed on a corner Then danced through the night The boys of the nypd choir Were singing galway bay And the bells were ringing out For christmas day You’re a bum You’re a punk You’re an old slut on junk Lying there almost dead on a drip in that bed You scumbag, you maggot You cheap lousy faggot Happy christmas your arse I pray God it’s our last I could have been someone Well so could anyone You took my dreams from me When I first found you I kept them with me babe I put them with my own Can’t make it all alone I’ve built my dreams around you

Merry xmas