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joncha is offline joncha
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Jan 2003
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I voted for Sandman the last two times. There's no point changing my vote now.

Jonny is offline Jonny
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Nov 2000
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I'm convinced... it's Sandman.

In fact, Jrabbit's data had me mostly convinced as of last round; unfortunately for him, he only brought forth his findings after I voted. Now, if this meet had been in Florida, I could have voted several more times to fix the situation...

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May 2003
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Poor Sandman.

Hercules is offline Hercules
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Ah, my dear Adagio, but there now some useful clues.

There are two possible scenarios.

First, one of the Mafia (the Spam can killer) is already dead.
hence the fruit motif for the past three kills.

or two, the first Mafia has changed mode of killing.

I think the first Mafia is dead.

The second Mafia has benefited enormously from the attention focused on JRabbit, Sandman, Sparrow and spammers generally. And that also was part if not all of the motivation.

Now, Snowflake was killed because she was getting too close to identifying the killer. But it was also useful to kill her to divert blame elsewhere: ie towards a low spam candidate such as Sandman (I don't think it is you)

So where are we.

Gentlemen:

Snowflake's (a moments silence, if you please) last analysis
was, in my opinion, correct.

There is a fruit motif and there is a Civ 2 motif and an anti Spam motif.

The killer thought he could disguise the reason for Snowflake's death, as a strong anti spam motive.

So who fits the bill.

In my view there are two possible candidates but I have to admit I don't go into CivII forums.

Ben Kenobi or Jon Miller.

First, Ben Kenobi. Ben Kenobi plays in the Civ II forums and has a particular interest in City construction. Also he sports the Canadian Flag, which country has a London and a York, in Ontario.

Second, Jon Miller. Also Canadian. So London and York apply. Jon Miller also plays Civ 2 multiplayer.

He also has a relatively low PPD and,

In this Meet has shown an interest in exotic fruit and the colour yellow, (which connection Dark Cloud spotted).

Paddy the Scot slipped on a Banana Skin. Jon Miller's first drink was a Banana Bomber. Then there was the yellow cocktail. Jon Miller took a Yellow Daiquiri.

And then this.

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Skanky Burns was very happy and he prepared a new round of drinks for everybody. He himself was drinking a yellow cocktail someone else prepared for him.

So Yellow is definitely a theme.

Yellow, combined with the fruit motif,and the low spam factor, points to Jon Miller.

Lastly note that in the last vote to disguise his involvement Jon sacrificed his friend, J Rabbit, by voting Snowflake.

But he now needed to kill Snowflake: those deductions were getting way too close.

So well done the late Snowflake and well done Darkcloud for your detective skills.

I urge you to vote Jon Miller.

Kassiopeia is offline Kassiopeia
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quote:
Originally posted by joncha
I voted for Sandman the last two times. There's no point changing my vote now.


Just to make it clear: Sandman

Sandman is offline Sandman
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Actually I have had a thread closed, once. A pity, since it was a really good one.

There's only one way for me to help reveal the mafia, and that is to... demonstrate my innocence... by way of example.... me..... Sandman!

Hercules is offline Hercules
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Alas I may be too late.

But note, if I am killed next, it is definitely Jon Miller who is the Mafia.

Kassiopeia is offline Kassiopeia
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Or someone framing Jon.

The Mafia seldom vote for themselves... a-HA! That's what you're counting on aren't you? Well your nefarious plot has been uncovered now!

Sandman is offline Sandman
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Pass the hemlock.

Whoha is offline Whoha
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Dec 2001
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clearly the mafia killed herself, we can all rest easy now.

Kassiopeia is offline Kassiopeia
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Pass the hemlock.


Asking for an easy execution usually leads to the actual act being way more messy and painful than it would have normally been.

-Jrabbit is offline -Jrabbit
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Feb 2002
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...if only I knew the protocol for ghostly speech...

DarkCloud is offline DarkCloud
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'Tis a pity that I am next on Sandman's list, having the next highest amount of posts

And who but Sandman would be so defensive and braggarty (in the story) when noting that he had never had any trouble with the law (IE: rah)?

Maybe he thinks he can act as Agatha Cristie's Judge in Ten Little Indians the play and judge us all since he himself has no fault?
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That being said, if it 'tis not he, the Jon Miller connection represents an interesting idea, Jon hasn't posted much in this thread (I think... I know I haven't seen many posts) and that usually is a sign of guilt. And also, Jon has the sophistication of forum lore (since he seems to pop up everywhere- OT, OG, Civ II and all) and I think would actually be likely to, using his own peculiar brand of humor, actually research post counts and kill based on them.

But since the tide flows toward Sandman, and I am frustrated that he hasn't perished in these past two turns, I'm voting for Sandman

Paddy the Scot is offline Paddy the Scot

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quote:
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...if only I knew the protocol for ghostly speech...



clank clank rattle rattle

party hard mate

clank clank bloody banana skins rattle rattle

Hercules is offline Hercules
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There was one other thought in my deliberations. This is that everyone, past and present, at the Meet, is enjoying themselves too much, despite the death rate, and wish to live close to the edge and prolong the Meet and tension.

Nobody wants the party to end. So all want to keep the party going until only 3/5 remain - as is the 'Poly Mafia tradition.

Well I am up for that, but wearing my Sherlock hat I thought you might want my assessment on this matter at this stage.

Jon Miller is offline Jon Miller
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ack, that was a long post to read

the whole drink thing is silly, I just drink (in this thread) what I am given

(buit the banana bomber sounds good)

and I will swear on apolyton that I had no intentino of JR getting killed, I honestly thought Sandman was already out last time (and just to make sure he is nailed Sandman JR you will be avenged)

and I thought that it was likely Snowflake, because she was trying to put it off on someone else

as far as my posting ammount, it is the usual ammount of me for a Mafia game, as anyone who remembers the past mafia games I played would know

Jon Miller

DrSpike is offline DrSpike
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Looks like you'll be next though.

Tuberski is offline Tuberski
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Feb 2002
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Okay, Sandman.


ACK!

-Jrabbit is offline -Jrabbit
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clank, rattle... mmm, being avenged... sweet as a banana bomber.... mmmm, yum.... much better than breathing sand... happy new year...

Nikolai is offline Nikolai
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The analysis on Sandman is interesting...

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clank, rattle... 15 living souls, at least 8 votes for the Sandman... mmmm, yum.... methinks his luck's run out and this round be done...

Sandman is offline Sandman
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At least you'll find out that I'm innocent when I'm dead.

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quote:
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clank, rattle... mmm, being avenged... sweet as a banana bomber.... mmmm, yum.... much better than breathing sand... happy new year...


See, I took care of him too. I wasn't picking on you.

ACK!

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Originally posted by Sandman
At least you'll find out that I'm innocent when I'm dead.


Everyone is guilty of something.

Ben Kenobi is offline Ben Kenobi
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In my view there are two possible candidates but I have to admit I don't go into CivII forums.

Ben Kenobi or Jon Miller.


You should go to the civ2DG. That's why it's funny to include me among the anti-spam folks. I pulled about a 5ppd for the longest time before the DG died down.

quote:

First, Ben Kenobi. Ben Kenobi plays in the Civ II forums and has a particular interest in City construction. Also he sports the Canadian Flag, which country has a London and a York, in Ontario.


Considering that Jon Miller is FROM Ontario, and I am from the other side of the continent, I would think him to be a better choice than me.

Yes, I agree with your analysis of Jon Miller

Ben Kenobi is offline Ben Kenobi
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Nah. I found it in the desk drawer of our hotel room. But it's the thought that counts, right?


You stole a bible from a hotel room?

Dude, that's just SO wrong.

reismark is offline reismark
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Sandman.

And I hope to god it's him, because if it isn't, you guys are going to turn on me next... and it most assuredly is *not* me.

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code:
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Name Status
2. Nikolai Sandman
3. Hercules Jon Miller
4. Kassiopeia Sandman
5. Joncha Sandman
8. Adagio Sandman
9. Reismark Sandman
10. Jonny Sandman
11. Spaced Cowboy Sandman
12. Ben Kenobi Jon Miller
13. Whoha -
14. Tuberski Sandman
19. DarkCloud Sandman
21. Sandman Sandman
23. Jon Miller Sandman
24. Theben -



I must be bored, even though you guys kill me for these tables, I still prepare the summary...kinda makes one wonder though, this has long been a forgone conclusion, is Ljube waiting for Whoha or Theben to send in the next kill perhaps before he updates?

* Sparrowhawk the deceased

Nikolai is offline Nikolai
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There is on high time the GM does something now...

Hercules is offline Hercules
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He's recovering from New Year celebrations.

 
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