06-01-2005 00:20									#121
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Is the world getting in a donation pissing contest?

Looks like it, but I think it's good news

	06-01-2005 00:27									#122
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quote: Is the world getting in a donation pissing contest?

I sure hope so.

	06-01-2005 00:27									#123
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Me too. It's a much better way to measure our cheneys. Here's to potlache culture!

	06-01-2005 00:34									#124
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That, and the space program.

	06-01-2005 01:54									#125
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Australia has announced a 1 BILLION DOLLAR tsunami aid package...


...which will go solely to Indonesia.

	06-01-2005 02:17									#126
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Anyone know how much countries such as Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are giving?

	06-01-2005 02:19									#127
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I just heard on the radio that no industrialized country gives as much as 1% of their GDP as foreign aid. (Norway is tops with like 0.85%; USA bringing up the rear with 0.17%)


Thus, I'd like to challenge all of us to outstrip our governments, and donate 1% of our yearly salary to relief organizations. UNICEF, Red Cross/Red Crescent, whatever. I made mine to Doctors Without Borders.

	06-01-2005 02:24									#128
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Apparently our federal government will match all private donations. Don't know if this includes corporate donations or not.

	06-01-2005 02:26									#129
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I'm too lazy to read all the threads about this topic. however, is Lancer alright? Was he back yet?

	06-01-2005 03:35									#130
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The Philippines was not hit at all, so if that's where he was, he should be OK.

	06-01-2005 03:44									#131
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Thanks

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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber Anyone know how much countries such as Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are giving?

I saw on MSNBC today that the Saudis gave $30 Million, the Kuwatis $10 Million, and Qatar $25 Million. This was followed by a story that Muslims are asking why aren't they donating more (apparently they're afraid funds will land in the hands of "infidels")

Even worse, now fundies are blaming the earthquake that triggered the tsunami on "underground nuclear testing by the US, Israel, and India". Some people are just sick.

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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer I just heard on the radio that no industrialized country gives as much as 1% of their GDP as foreign aid. (Norway is tops with like 0.85%; USA bringing up the rear with 0.17%) ---

Sweden had the target of 1% back in the 80's. I don't know what we have today, but we probably can't afford it any longer. In related news, we are giving 200 000 doses of cholera vaccine to Sri Lanka.

I think Swedish government aid is going mostly to Sri Lanka. It seems Americans and Ozzies are giving most to Indonesia. Sri Lanka and Indonesia are the countries in most urgent need anyway. Countries like Thailand and India are rich enough to help themselves.

But Swedes who were in Thailand are very thankful for the support from private citizens close to the disaster area, who opened their private homes to provide shelter, food, clothing and transportation to help the Swedish tourists who were stranded in just shorts and sandals, without money or credit cards and looking for lost family members. There are now some fundraising campaigns to give something back to all these Thai people, who proved to be friends when you really needed them.

	06-01-2005 03:56									#134
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quote: Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous --- Even worse, now fundies are blaming the earthquake that triggered the tsunami on "underground nuclear testing by the US, Israel, and India". Some people are just sick.

Yes, everybody know it was Iran and Pakistan!

	06-01-2005 05:25									#135
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quote: Originally posted by Chemical Ollie Yes, everybody know it was Iran and Pakistan!

and North Korea.

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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer Thus, I'd like to challenge all of us to outstrip our governments, and donate 1% of our yearly salary to relief organizations. UNICEF, Red Cross/Red Crescent, whatever. I made mine to Doctors Without Borders.

You donate 1% of your annual income to them? Mine's only 0.5%.

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quote: Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous Even worse, now fundies are blaming the earthquake that triggered the tsunami on "underground nuclear testing by the US, Israel, and India". Some people are just sick.

Funny how Allah let it strike the Muslim separatist part of Indonesia the worst, and how Hindu Bali gets off then....

Truly, the stupidity and the dignity of ordinary humanity are amazing.

	06-01-2005 20:00									#138
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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom Funny how Allah let it strike the Muslim separatist part of Indonesia the worst, and how Hindu Bali gets off then.... Truly, the stupidity and the dignity of ordinary humanity are amazing.

And hence the crazy consipracy theory. Allah wouldn't wipe out the faithful, therefore it must be Americans, Zionists, or Hindus at fault.

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quote: Originally posted by pchang And hence the crazy consipracy theory. Allah wouldn't wipe out the faithful, therefore it must be Americans, Zionists, or Hindus at fault.

Yes, but Allah could save the faithful, given that Allah is god....

	06-01-2005 22:59									#140
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women's long hair caused them to become trapped and die.

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3966010

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My good friend from Colombo was due to fly to the UK on the 28th, thankfully she was ok, although some of her family friends are missing.
She still managed to get the flight, so it would seem some order of normality has returned, although her descriptions of Colombo just after what had happened was quite horrific, and that wasn't even the worst effected area.

I just want to thank everybody and anybody who has donated money/time/gifts of any kind to this appeal, It really brings home how small the earth has become when you read the countless stories from all over the world.

	07-01-2005 03:28									#142
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My company announced it is giving 1 million euros to the relief efforts, and will match any contributions made by employees.

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what company is that? It would be good to reward that kind of corporate behavior with more business.

	07-01-2005 03:54									#144
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I'd rather not say, as you can imagine, but it's not one you can really just patronize unless you have a very specific need and are in a specific position to do so.

I will say we have 120,000+ employees worldwide, so matching contributions could be a huge thing.

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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov I'd rather not say, as you can imagine

Err, you just said something positive about it, and I never saw you say something negative. I wonder why you'd want to hide it
unless you work for an unAmerican traitorous scum company

That's it! You're working for EADS, Boeing sworn enemy !

	07-01-2005 04:35									#146
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Or perhaps I'm cautious about giving out too much personal information to complete strangers over the internet?

	07-01-2005 07:47									#147
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yes, because with only 120,000+ employees it would be way to easy for us to track you down.

	07-01-2005 08:57									#148
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Yes, but that's worldwide. You also know the city where I live, which would make tracking it down very, very easy.

Hmmm, this is getting creepy...

	07-01-2005 20:46									#149
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I think the positive thing on the private sector is that you really really have to contribute a LOT if you want to stand out with the PR... because so many businesses are contributing some already. So you want to actually get graet PR, you need to step up with loads of cash to top these... Anyone know how much IBM and Microsoft are going to contribute?

	07-01-2005 20:59									#150
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yes. Ted Turner and Bill Gates are big donators. Bill Gates is only a big donator after Ted Turner chided him about it.

But I'm not sure if they donated for this yet.