11-01-2005 21:58									#1
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Hi folks

I have some great news for you all.

Today i have placed my own server at a local hostingcenter.
This is done because im selling more online services than ever before and i want to begin insourcing some of them to increase my profit

It also leaves room to set up at subversion server and all the other things we might need when i get the time.
Time is the biggest factor right now for me but ill try to at least get subversion running one of these days.

I will need an application from each of those who would like/need acces to this service, containing a statement that you agree to comply with the Activision licsense and what username/password you want.
Please send this to klaus@kaan.dk

klaus

	11-01-2005 23:54									#2
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Ahh the good old issue of CVS... I can't exactly remember anymore, was it agreed that we can set up a CVS server without violating the Activision license?

	12-01-2005 00:26									#3
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I think it is in the FAQ somewhere that we can put it on version control, as long as we make sure that all users has agreed to the licsense agreement for the source code.
Please someone correct me if im wrong.

	12-01-2005 00:27									#4
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By the way, the server is up now and im feeding it the original source at the moment.
Next i will put in the latest all build and then the small updates untill it is current.

	12-01-2005 00:41									#5
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Good news indeed .

I will PM you.

	12-01-2005 00:59									#6
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I've just spent some time putting updates into a subversion server locally incrementally (i.e. each posted patch individually) from early in the development, so if you want to take advantage of this to improve the history in the server, let me know.

	12-01-2005 01:20									#7
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ohh, hmm, i just finished putting all of it in and i dont really have anymore time tonight so i just think it will have to be like this for now.
But nice peice of work, that must have taken a lot of time

	12-01-2005 01:47									#8
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quote: Originally posted by kaan ohh, hmm, i just finished putting all of it in and i dont really have anymore time tonight so i just think it will have to be like this for now. But nice peice of work, that must have taken a lot of time

Well, I haven't finished yet (I'm missing some of Fromafar's patches), but I think it's worth doing - for example to enable us to (more easily) undo the change that's causing this big slowdown in AI turns. I'm sure they'll be other similar things. It's nice to have proper author credits too, and properly associate the changes with the description of what they do.

When I finish I'll let you know. At present I'm awaiting a response from Fromafar about the files I'm missing...

	12-01-2005 01:58									#9
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great, lets merge when your done

	14-01-2005 04:37									#10
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quote: Originally posted by J Bytheway I've just spent some time putting updates into a subversion server locally incrementally (i.e. each posted patch individually) from early in the development, so if you want to take advantage of this to improve the history in the server, let me know.

So have i, with the same problems (some missing patches, not up to date). If there's any interest, i could merge the remaining patches and provide a dump, too.
I used the following properties:

• apolyton_src (Name of sourcefile or copied repository dir)
  
• apolyton_postid (Id of posting where the src came from, if any)
  
• apolyton_url (full url to the posting, if any)
  
• svn:author (Apolyton username (including spaces, special chars)
  
• svn:date (Post date, if any)
  
• svn:eol_style (Policy: native for sources, CRLF for the rest e.g. *.txt)
  
• svn:keywords (Keyword expansion for cpp sources)
  
• svn:log (Post message, sometimes shortened)
  
• svn:mime_type (I think only been set for plain text files)
  

	15-01-2005 14:49									#11
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ctplinuxfan: i didnt know that properties existed like that, but i think it sounds like a brilliant idea and im very much interested in merging when your done

to the rest of you: im wondering why noone other than solver has applied for access?
It is running and if it is to have any value we need to start using it.

	15-01-2005 17:38									#12
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Hi Kaan, just out of interest is this server suitable for hosting a MP server?

I ask because the only server we have has gone down again and its beginning to get frustrating, especially when you get kicked mid-game.

I wasnt sure if "all the other things we might need" included a MP server or if the server was upto to the task or indeed if you even wanted to attempt such a thing.

	15-01-2005 17:54									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Maquiladora Hi Kaan, just out of interest is this server suitable for hosting a MP server? I ask because the only server we have has gone down again and its beginning to get frustrating, especially when you get kicked mid-game. I wasnt sure if "all the other things we might need" included a MP server or if the server was upto to the task or indeed if you even wanted to attempt such a thing.

Im sure that im able to run a gameserver on it, but im not sure that i want to?

The thing is that im paying for traffic rather than a monthly fee and i have calculated what it might cost to run most of the thing we need for development and that is within acceptable limits. Can you give me an estimate of how much traffic it would generate to run the MP game server?

	15-01-2005 19:26									#14
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I have no idea, but since anet servers support at least 3 or 4 other games I'd expect too much to pay by traffic. I could find out though.

If there were no servers left it might be possible to pool some money from CtP1/2, Battlezone, Heavy Gear and whatever other communities, but since we still have one theres no need for anyone around here to pay for the traffic. Thanks anyway.

	16-01-2005 02:05									#15
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I have reserved 1 gigabyte of data traffic a month for ctp2 related stuff so please investigate.

	16-01-2005 02:35									#16
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quote: Originally posted by kaan to the rest of you: im wondering why noone other than solver has applied for access? It is running and if it is to have any value we need to start using it.

Well it just seemed not too urgently as I am also occupied with real life stuff. However in the meantime you should have received it.

And maybe you should answer the question how I use it in public, e.g what is the best program.

-Martin

	16-01-2005 03:32									#17
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Yeah, I'd also appreciate recommendations on Windows software for it. I haven't yet looked around, but wanted to have my account.

	16-01-2005 04:02									#18
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Kaan, sent you a private message. I think it got through, you may have multiple copies of it though, Apolyton froze on me

	16-01-2005 04:26									#19
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I got it Maq

This is the URL for the subversion server:

svn://217.195.177.70/home/ctp2/sub

A client program is needed to access the server, if you are using windows i recomend TortoiseSVN.
http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/
If you are using VS 7.0 or later you can use http://ankhsvn.tigris.org/ for an integrated interface.
You can use both without conflict.

I havent got time for a whole toturial tonight but i can refer to chapter 3 in the free online book found here: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ for the basics and the client documentation for the specifics.

Klaus

	16-01-2005 15:45									#20
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I have fixed the dns server and now you can replace 217.195.177.70 with ctp2.kaan.dk

	16-01-2005 21:56									#21
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quote: Originally posted by kaan to the rest of you: im wondering why noone other than solver has applied for access? It is running and if it is to have any value we need to start using it.

I sent you an email 5 days ago - did you not get it?...

	16-01-2005 22:00									#22
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quote: Originally posted by ctplinuxfan So have i, with the same problems (some missing patches, not up to date). If there's any interest, i could merge the remaining patches and provide a dump, too. I used the following properties: [snip]

Well, this is much more professional than what I've done - I suggest that ctplinuxfan's work would be more useful than mine. If he's willing to finish then I won't bother.

To get missing patches I suggest you contact Martin - he seems to have the best selection.

	16-01-2005 23:16									#23
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quote: Originally posted by J Bytheway I sent you an email 5 days ago - did you not get it?...

i found it in my spamfolder
but you should have gotten an answer yesterday.

	17-01-2005 07:07									#24
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quote: Originally posted by kaan i found it in my spamfolder but you should have gotten an answer yesterday.

Nope... and I checked my spam folder too...

	17-01-2005 22:49									#25
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What services do we need?

I figure that we need the subversion server and a bugzilla, and maybe even a gameserver for multiplayer.

Is there anything i forgot?

Maybe a homepage with information on how to use these services? A Wiki perhaps?

	17-01-2005 23:19									#26
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It would be useful to have an anon account on SVN.

	17-01-2005 23:29									#27
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quote: Originally posted by tombom It would be useful to have an anon account on SVN.

im afraid that it will violate the EULA from Activision.

unless of course you mean a write only account, but what use would that be?

	18-01-2005 00:53									#28
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Ok. i suppose that makes sense actually.

What should the email look like? I'm not really sure.

Last edited by tombom on 18-01-2005 at 01:06

	18-01-2005 00:55									#29
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The EULA has never made much sense

	18-01-2005 01:02									#30
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quote: Originally posted by kaan What services do we need? I figure that we need the subversion server and a bugzilla,

Yes, I think these are the most urgent things.

quote: and maybe even a gameserver for multiplayer.

It's worth noting that this would be helpful for testing multiplayer (if we can see what's going on at the server end). Of course, some sort of local setup as I believe Fromafar arranged is probably better.

quote: Is there anything i forgot? Maybe a homepage with information on how to use these services? A Wiki perhaps?

A Wiki seems like the best idea for that, yes.

There's nothing else I can think of, at least for now.