16-01-2005 06:53									#31
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quote: ...not enough to cause as much out pouring of emotion that caused Trajanus to fall into an elipetic fit. Perhaps the priorties of people are a bit skewed. Just like the Taliban blowing up the budda statues. It was sad but not really something I'll lose sleep over.

WTF? Places like these are our heritage. We wouldn't be here if it weren't for them. I have only one word for this... Barbarians

Oh, and thank you BD for another wonderful post. Keep it up **

	16-01-2005 06:56									#32
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Babylon isn't our heritage...

	16-01-2005 07:17									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Babylon isn't our heritage...

Whatever...

	16-01-2005 07:33									#34
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Ah, ignorance...

However, in USA, they use to consider his puny relics without any interest as almost sacred things...

	16-01-2005 07:52									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Thorgal Ah, ignorance... However, in USA, they use to consider his puny relics without any interest as almost sacred things...

I didn't say it was worthless, I said it wasn't part of our heritage, which is completely true. Ancient Babylon is so distant that its particular effects are minimal.

	16-01-2005 08:03									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Verto No one gives a **** about this. They just want to ***** at Americans.

**** you, you shitape. Just because you have the distorted priorities of a philistine beetle doesn't mean you should judge others by the same standards.
This is more than irrevocable damage to our past, this is a symbol. A symbol of the blind stupidity, ignorance and cross-eyed militarism that America has made it's own since the invasion.
God, if I ever see you, or anyone else that makes a similar sort of argument, I'm going to shove a warm lamp up their ass and make them do the Cha-cha slide.

	16-01-2005 08:05									#37
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No you won't.

	16-01-2005 08:07									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber Perhaps the priorties of people are a bit skewed. Just like the Taliban blowing up the budda statues. It was sad but not really something I'll lose sleep over.

I see that the Oscar Wilde's quote I posted fits you like a glove.

	16-01-2005 08:08									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Babylon isn't our heritage...

I know you're not very bright and your English comprehension is a bit off, so try and read carefully:

You are a moron. A moron who dances in the pits of the abyss.

Of course it's our ****ing heritage. The origins of civilization. The origins of the Middle East. The beginning of all that came after.... To simply claim that it's so distant that it doesn't matter is to **** alongside the stormtroopers of the Bush administration. To be so ignorant is inexcusable.

	16-01-2005 08:12									#40
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We'll just have to evolve and somehow survive without it.

In a week no one will care about this.

	16-01-2005 08:15									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Verto We'll just have to evolve and somehow survive without it. In a week no one will care about this.

You're probably right, although serious academics and so-on will probably continue to talk about it for a while. It's a pity it seems so irrelevent to so many people, but that's how the media cycle works, I guess.

	16-01-2005 08:15									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Evil Knevil You are a moron. A moron who dances in the pits of the abyss.

How can you say that? Kuci is our intellectual god

	16-01-2005 08:16									#43
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I just learned a cool new word from Evil.

"Shitape".

I like it. Yet another addition to the Ag lexicon of personal insults.

Now I just have to find someone to call it. This thread has several candidates...

	16-01-2005 08:19									#44
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quote: How can you say that? Kuci is our intellectual god

Nope. He's the little dog that follows you yapping down the street.

In other news, remind me never to piss off Evil....

	16-01-2005 08:23									#45
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On a more serious note, this is terrible. These are world heritage sites IIRC. How would the US feel if someone decided to burn down Paul Revere's house?

	16-01-2005 08:39									#46
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quote: [SIZE=1] How would the US feel if someone decided to burn down Paul Revere's house?

Nah, they would probably be happy.

"Look, they have burned down Paul Revere's house!"
"Finally. I hope they build a mall there, it's always good to have another mall".

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quote: Originally posted by Agathon On a more serious note, this is terrible. These are world heritage sites IIRC. How would the US feel if someone decided to burn down Paul Revere's house?

Outrage for a week, then everyone would forget. It's like 9/11. Forgotten. It's only useful to sell car ribbon magnets and Bush's foreign policy.

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quote: Originally posted by Evil Knevil I know you're not very bright and your English comprehension is a bit off, so try and read carefully: You are a moron. A moron who dances in the pits of the abyss. Of course it's our ****ing heritage. The origins of civilization. The origins of the Middle East. The beginning of all that came after.... To simply claim that it's so distant that it doesn't matter is to **** alongside the stormtroopers of the Bush administration. To be so ignorant is inexcusable.

Something so distant as to have virtually no consequence in our times does not constitute our heritage.

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quote: Originally posted by Agathon On a more serious note, this is terrible. These are world heritage sites IIRC. How would the US feel if someone decided to burn down Paul Revere's house?

What's the historical value of Paul Revere's house? I can see Monticello or Mount Vernon or the Liberty Bell, but I don't see why anyone would or should care about that.

	16-01-2005 08:52									#50
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and yet another layer is added to the heap. At this point they ought to just leave the base there, someday archaeologists will study the occupation of Iraq.

	16-01-2005 08:53									#51
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That's actually a good point

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quote: Outrage for a week, then everyone would forget. It's like 9/11. Forgotten. It's only useful to sell car ribbon magnets and Bush's foreign policy.

Perhaps that's what you think, but there is this whole group called "other people" who value different things than you do. Among the things they value are historical monuments.

I guess that living in the US, which doesn't have very much history, doesn't make this easy, but go trudge around an old castle or cathedral in Europe on a summer's day and see how packed it is.

People care for the simple reason that those ruins are the foundations of western civilization. It's the same reason people care about the Acropolis or the Vatican City.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that the rest of the world has to revolve around your prejudices.

Whoever forgot to tell the troops to be careful around these monuments was as stupid as the idiot who used the Sphinx for target practice.

quote: What's the historical value of Paul Revere's house? I can see Monticello or Mount Vernon or the Liberty Bell, but I don't see why anyone would or should care about that.

Go say that out loud in Boston.

	16-01-2005 08:58									#53
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Someone should sue Kuci's school for incompetence.

I thought it was supposed to be a good one... yet it has managed to turn out an ignorant buffoon.

Bring back the rod!!!

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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker What's the historical value of Paul Revere's house? I can see Monticello or Mount Vernon or the Liberty Bell, but I don't see why anyone would or should care about that.

I doubt more than 5% of Americans have heard the names Monticello and Mount Vernon (in the context of the houses, not towns )

I can just imagine all the rednecks getting blustery about something being destroyed that they didn't realize existed the day before.

	16-01-2005 09:22									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Patriqvium "And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird." (Rev. 18:2)

See? Bush is the Anti-Christ. Told ya.

	16-01-2005 09:51									#56
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It's news like this that makes news of US war casualties all the sweeter.

	16-01-2005 09:55									#57
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quote: In a situation where previously the Iraqis were led by a brutal maniac who murdered and tortured his own people, and today, and where today it is threatened by a fundamentalist fanatics who would like to set up a Taliban style state in Iraq, considerations over historical artifacts plae when considering everything else that is at stake.

Exactly, since we all know that the only way to save Iraq from the fundies (nevermind that the Sunni Arabs in rebellion are generally secular) is to set up bases in their most precious archeological sites. It's just common sense.

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quote: It's news like this that makes news of US war casualties all the sweeter.

Eye for an Eye
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quote: I can just imagine all the rednecks getting blustery about something being destroyed that they didn't realize existed the day before.

	16-01-2005 10:27									#59
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Easy EK.

	16-01-2005 10:30									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi In a situation where previously the Iraqis were led by a brutal maniac who murdered and tortured his own people, and today, and where today it is threatened by a fundamentalist fanatics who would like to set up a Taliban style state in Iraq, considerations over historical artifacts plae when considering everything else that is at stake.

That's almost as funny as this conversation in an RPG session:

Villager, "What are you doing here?"
Morrow Project Team, "To restore civilisation."
Villager, "What's in your van?"
MPT, "High explosives."