01-02-2005 01:14									#31
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Well then you can come. You see, we are not racists in our club house.. it's all about the attitude. Got it? Well welcome then...

	01-02-2005 04:45									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Japher She's actually hoping to have the kid while my folks are at least one ocean away. My wife doesn't suffer well, and doesn't like ppl around before, during, or after it... So, if we can have the kid and a week or two to recoup before the gps show up at the doorstep to "help" that would be good.

I dont blame her my mom ivited her sisters to the birth of my first kid, like i needed that. I screaming at my ex husband and one of my aunts is filming this like it is a kids birthday party. I was to busy to tell my aunts to get the hell out with all the pain and all

	01-02-2005 05:13									#33
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Wow. I can only dream of first class on an aeroplane.

	01-02-2005 05:16									#34
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Hell if you ask me id probably be ok in the cargo part at least there i can lay down and stretch. It sucks to be 5 11 and sitting in a seat made for the petite folks.

	01-02-2005 05:41									#35
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The title says it all... "spoiled rotten". ***** slap her, Jaguar.

	03-02-2005 10:49									#36
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It's Japher, Imran.

ACK!

	03-02-2005 10:51									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Japher My parents are flying the whole family to Hawaii in August for a family vacation (my folks are picking up the entire tab). Wifey and I can't go as jr. is due to pop up around then... Anyway, my older sis and my mom got in a fight because there weren't any first class tickets left and that my sister's family would have to fly coach. What the hell?! It's free! It's not like ANYONE can do ANYTHING about there not being any first class tickets left... Damn, it's not like she's Rosanne Barr or anyone, where does she get off?

Word up that's messed up.

I will settle this and take the tickets if your sister doesn't want them.

The horror!!!!!

	03-02-2005 18:49									#38
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So basically your parents are multi millionaires?

	03-02-2005 18:55									#39
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If you can fly first class you are too rich.

	03-02-2005 20:30									#40
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Lots of Americans are multi-millionaires. (1 in 125 are millionaires.) It's not that big of deal.

	03-02-2005 20:33									#41
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Aren't there also alot of poor americans?

	03-02-2005 20:35									#42
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12% are below the poverty line, which is a percentage that is higher than France (7%) and lower than the United Kingdom (17%).

	03-02-2005 20:50									#43
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Footie mad: Countries in the Western Hemisphere south of Canada generally have higher economic inequality than Europe.

	03-02-2005 20:55									#44
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Well maybe that is the "american dream".

	03-02-2005 21:22									#45
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Yeah, but only millionaires in Dollars, not a currency that's worth anything.

	03-02-2005 22:27									#46
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My dad has done very well for himself. Well enough that he feels that the best way to solve a problem is to throw money at it...

	03-02-2005 22:31									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Japher My dad has done very well for himself. Well enough that he feels that the best way to solve a problem is to throw money at it...

Doesnt solve the problem however im sure it does make the reciever happy. As a soon to be dad do you see yourself doing the same thing?

	03-02-2005 22:31									#48
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If I was buying then all everyone would get coach and you could ***** about if you wanted but then I wouldn't buy next time.

	03-02-2005 22:37									#49
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quote: As a soon to be dad do you see yourself doing the same thing?

Heck no, I don't have that much money

I don't let my parents spoil me, though they try. I won't throw money at my kids, I'll try paying attention to them. Either that or put them in military school

	03-02-2005 23:11									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Japher Heck no, I don't have that much money I don't let my parents spoil me, though they try. I won't throw money at my kids, I'll try paying attention to them. Either that or put them in military school

Where is the line drawn at spoiling. I give my kids what I can aford. i.e they have their own pc for my sake as well as theirs. Tubes and I just finished building another one for them they have their own tv and steros and dvd players. But if they ask me for something and i dont have the money I have to tell them no.

	04-02-2005 00:15									#51
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That's ****ing ridiculous. If I had a real emergency my parents would probably give me whatever I needed. I am 100% certain that they will never pay for my plane ticket to Hawai'i as a ****ing 25 year old. Not even coach . If your sister's an adult she can deal with getting there on her own.

	04-02-2005 00:17									#52
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I might hate the fact that some people are really rich while other people are poor.

I really loathe it when those with too much didn't even get it on their own. Makes me angry.

	04-02-2005 01:12									#53
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse I might hate the fact that some people are really rich while other people are poor. I really loathe it when those with too much didn't even get it on their own. Makes me angry.

I dont think thats the point in this case though. I can see if the sister in question has never been treated as well as the rest if the family, I was a middle child and fought for the attention showered on the oldest who is a sister and that of the second the only boy anf then the youngest another sister. When i had my first kid is when i decided i didnt care anymore. I put my self through school and have been living on my own since i was 18. My point is the sister shouldnt look a gift horse in the mouth. And just by the description of the father here, how does the sister in coach know that once they get to hawaii that she will not get something out of it that the other sister didnt just for agreeing to ride coach? I stated before if it was my kid Id tell them fine stay home dont go, Ill find somebody more grateful to take.

	04-02-2005 01:13									#54
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Why?

I'm happy for them, to get to go to Hawaii.

I'm torn about this same question for myself. My grandmother and grandfather are having their 50th wedding anniversary in Hawaii, something they have planned for a long time.

They wanted to have the whole family with them, which is cool, but I think I'd be happier just having everybody back home again.

I know this is a once-in-a-lifetime trip, and I naturally want to go, but on the other hand, it would be nice to decline the trip, and let everyone else go.

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quote: My point is the sister shouldnt look a gift horse in the mouth.

While I agree, it appears that she still cares about it as an adult, unlike you and me.

Japher's parents should have foreseen the shitstorm they were stirring up. The fit she threw is entirely understandable and not out-of-line.

	04-02-2005 01:17									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Why? I'm happy for them, to get to go to Hawaii. I'm torn about this same question for myself. My grandmother and grandfather are having their 50th wedding anniversary in Hawaii, something they have planned for a long time. They wanted to have the whole family with them, which is cool, but I think I'd be happier just having everybody back home again. I know this is a once-in-a-lifetime trip, and I naturally want to go, but on the other hand, it would be nice to decline the trip, and let everyone else go.

Solution if you cant afford to go or want to let somebody else go in youplace send somebody with a laptop and get a dig cam corcder and hook up during the party then all who cant go are still part of the party just i a different place.

	04-02-2005 01:20									#57
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Proverbs 17:1

Better a dry crust with peace and quiet than a house full of feasting, with strife.

	04-02-2005 01:21									#58
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I talked this over again with my wife (as it is good to get these things rooted in us for when we have kids) and we both agree with DanS. My parents were being generous by inviting them, and it would be kind of a bastard move to expect them to come when they can't afford it (like Ben's case). However, by letting one go first class when the other can't my parents clearly singled one group out as being "favored", or at least perceived as "favored".

Shame on them

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quote: Originally posted by DanS While I agree, it appears that she still cares about it as an adult, unlike you and me. Japher's parents should have foreseen the shitstorm they were stirring up. The fit she threw is entirely understandable and not out-of-line.

Maybe not out of line but a lot selfish. When i went to hawaii my trip was paid for by my work. I was down there to work. I could have afforded to send two people from tx to there but since i have 1 husband and 3 kids i only sent for 1 and the husband won out.

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quote: Solution if you cant afford to go or want to let somebody else go in youplace send somebody with a laptop and get a dig cam corcder and hook up during the party then all who cant go are still part of the party just i a different place.

No, it's something I'm just going to have to work out for myself.