04-02-2005 19:17									#1
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Tell us if you have any hang ups about hospitals or what you hate most about them. I just hate how the staff gives you directions with the assumption that you already know where your at. Gone are the long straight hallways. The one I was at had a corner every 10 feet it seemed. Felt like I was in a maze instead of a hospital.


Tuesday evening I got a call from my girlfriends mom who told me she had been taken to the ER because she was throwing up blood and was seriously bleeding from her mouth. She had her tonsils taken out the week before beacuse she has had continues problems with them since she was 14 but the doctors would never take them out because she was too old or something. Infections and other problems about 6 times a year and it kept her going back and forth and finally she got tired of it and had them removed as an adult. Well let me tell ya it's about the worse thing I've seen someone go through that wasn't fatal. I had been staying off and on with her and her mom helping to take care of her. She has two kids and they also needed to be taken care of. Anyway about 430 pm on Tusday I get this call from her mom and I rush up to the the hospital. Thing is she was 88 miles to the north and every city and town I went through was having rush hour traffic. when I get to the ER she was holding a bag spitting up lots of blood. Not a pretty sight and her mom and family was taking turns staying with her back in the Room but the sight of that much blood wasnt really something they wanted to see that much of so I stayed with her from the time I got there to the time they took her to the OR. That was about 3 ****ing hours she had to sit there spitting up blood. Once she got in the OR it took about 15 minutes to cauterize the bleeding since she was only bleeding out of one side. we had waited 3 hours (she was there a full hour before i got there) for a 15 minute procedure. Mainly because of a mix up between the ER and her doctor. After the operation she spent the night in the maturnaty wing. She had jokingly said she would rather have gone through a C section again than to have to put up with all that bleeding. Well since the hospital had a shortage of beds she ended up in about the nicest hospital rooms I've ever seen. DVD players, huge bath in the restroom, chairs that folded out into beds. It would have been a pretty good experience if not for my gf waking up every couple of hours in pain and me having to go remind the nurses that her medication was overdue again.

	04-02-2005 19:30									#2
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I hate the fact that they can call you to an operation 07.00 on a tuesday and then let you wait until thursday before actually performing the operation. Yes, I have nothing better to do than staying at the hospital for two full days eating crappy hospital food and listening to old gezzers that have broken their hip bone and probably wonīt make it through the night anyway...

And on a sidenote Iīm sorry that my broken arm/shattered elbow wasnīt treated in an american hospital. Then I could sue their asses off for missing my sprained wrist and thereby causing me a (probably) lifelong disability...

	04-02-2005 19:35									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Kamrat X I hate the fact that they can call you to an operation 07.00 on a tuesday and then let you wait until thursday before actually performing the operation. Yes, I have nothing better to do than staying at the hospital for two full days eating crappy hospital food and listening to old gezzers that have broken their hip bone and probably wonīt make it through the night anyway...

Your at their mercy through the whole process. If my gf surgery hadnt been considered an emergency one she would have had to wait more than she did.

You can't sue where you are?

	04-02-2005 19:39									#4
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I hate two things; the almost a half hour's waitings that I usually have to have, and awful decorations. The wallpapers are straight from the 70's and they got these evil chairs, which I can't sit on without making some "un-estetic" sounds.

	04-02-2005 19:40									#5
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I always liked going to the hospital when I was a kid. I liked being the center of attention and laying in bed all day and watching tv and I liked the food. Course, I had to have pnuemonia to get in. One time it was so bad I had a hole in my lung, and they were worried my lung was going to collapse.

These days, I only go to the hospital when I'm having an asthma attack, so it's expensive and unpleasant. Still beats the alternative.

	04-02-2005 19:52									#6
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Thereīs some legislation regarding malpractice, but itīs a ****ing jungle of forms, examinations and ****. And itīs not even sure that it will get any money. I will have to apply to a third party insurance company that handles these issues. I want a ****ing lawyer that skins them alive And besides itīs almost impossible for a individual citizen to win a case against a branch of the state.

	04-02-2005 20:02									#7
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Lets not forget that you have a good chance of acquiring an infection while in a hospital that you didnt have when you went in. I avoid them like the plague (I havent found any Yersinia pestis yet in patients with nosocomial infections but have identified bugs almost as bad in many respects).

	04-02-2005 20:18									#8
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I probably haven't spent more than a few hours total in hosptials, so I couldn't really say.

Oh, but there's something I hate about the one near where I live, anyways. There is this mysterious fine mist of water (god I hope it's water) that falls to the sidewalk next to the building... I have no idea what causes it, but I feel it every time I walk past the building. Even though it covers only a very small and specific area of the sidewalk (a stretch of about 3-5 meters), it's always there.

	04-02-2005 20:21									#9
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From the air conditioning maybe? Personally I'd cross the street (at least) to avoid it. The stuff that floats through the 'filtered' air from the AC at some places is staggering.

	04-02-2005 22:21									#10
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH Lets not forget that you have a good chance of acquiring an infection while in a hospital that you didnt have when you went in.

Especially germs with Immunities against many otf thze antibiotics which are used to date.
Heard from a case in Japan where a patient got a pneumonia in hospital and died of it, because none of the antibiotics the medics tried showed any effect.

	05-02-2005 04:29									#11
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I happen to work in a hospital. Many for that matter. Since I work as an agency nurse. Most of the ones I have been in arepretty decent. Well as far as the O.R.is concerned. Believe you me its not the hospital making you wait it the wonderful doctor your seeing. Because while your waitng so are we in the O.R. Just waiting for mr wondeful to walk thru those doors. And I must add that most infections are gotten on the floors not in the or. That and patient non cooperation lead to the highest infection rate.

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Several things I hate:

1. They hand out industrial strength painkillers like sweets - overlooking the fact that they are not suitable for someone taking the drugs listed on your record, that they are not meant to be prescribed to someone in your age group. And they discharge you equipped with enough of them to kill a herd of elephants, mentioning casually that you really shouldn't take an overdose of them.

2. They don't believe you're about to be sick until you have vomited all over yourself, the floor and several members of staff.

3. They dont believe you are fainting due to low blood pressure. 'She's faking, just sit her down and she'll be fine' 'Oh, ok, fine, take her BP then' 'Oh Jesus, why didnt you tell us you were feeling faint?' Finally spend the next day on a drip and hooked up to a heart monitor.

And thats all just in A&E....

On the ward:

1. Nil by mouth. That means you are not meant to put food in front of me then shout and threaten to call a psych consult when I refuse to eat it.

2. Nurses are overworked, underpaid and very nice people - but I'm 19, not 9. I would not like to spend my day playing with plasticine in the ridiculously spelt 'skool-room', I do not want to help the kid in the next bed with her colouring book and I certainly do not want to meet the ****ing 'entertainer'.

3. A little privacy would be nice. If you insist on doing such intrusive examinations, please close the curtains around the bed first. And it's rather embarrassing having a bath with a nurse sitting 2 feet away from me.

Next time I get ill/have an accident, I think I'll just die outside. A lot less hassle

	05-02-2005 04:56									#13
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Of course, people ignore how hospitals save millions of lives every year.

	05-02-2005 07:01									#14
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You wanna know what I hate about my job as a nurse? The fact that you try to take care of your patients and the patient and family members go behind your back and do things they are not supposed to. i.e One of my patient diagosis congestive heart failure.no fluids at all. Only cause it could kill him if he takes them. Family member brings fluids and gives it to paient and patient takes it. Hence making my job harder. Another example patient has blood pressure of 80/ 40 next to death, wants pain meds. all pain meds hes on will drop his blood pressure causing death. while im looking for the dr to find something to relieve his pain family gives pain meds from home man goes down, C.P.R. is started mean while my other 13 patients are ignored cause of this. thats what I hate.

	05-02-2005 07:30									#15
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5 hours I was in the ER on Christmas Eve ... I should have been there little more than an hour since the ultrasond took 15 minutes and the tests on my blood and urine that they could do there were done and printed by the time I got back to the room.

In short: The waiting on nothing. Took them 4 hours to tell me the results they had 4 hours earlier.

	05-02-2005 07:32									#16
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara I always liked going to the hospital when I was a kid. I liked being the center of attention and laying in bed all day and watching tv and I liked the food.

So you were one of THOSE.

	05-02-2005 07:36									#17
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I have to admit The E.R. usually does suck. Tuberski and I just sat in one for six hours 3 days ago for a pulled muscle in his groin. Id say they dont play favorites, since he was in the E.R. of the hospital he works at. All the while on the clock.

	05-02-2005 07:41									#18
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@ Mrs. Tuberski
People not following the orders of medical personel

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I should add:
Natural Selection removing such people from the Human Gene Pool

	05-02-2005 07:55									#20
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quote: Originally posted by DRoseDARs I should add: Natural Selection removing such people from the Human Gene Pool

Since I cant say that thank you That is the whole reason I dont work the floor anymore. Im staying in the O.R. And believe me when I say this we are now able to write up Docs who waste the pateints time and the staffs Time I hope soon that the situation as far as the waiting for the O.R is soon reduced. I must say that in some cases a patient is scheduled behind another patient and the Dr. OOPs F**** up prolnging the surgery making the next patient wait. Then there are situations where some blood work or lab work needs to be tested again to make sure the patient can survive the surgery,hence more waiting, believe me when i say this i feel for all the surgical patients that are left waiting not only are they thirsty but hungry as well. But the consequence of us letting you eat or drink is risk of aspiration during your surgery. Which can cause death to you.

	05-02-2005 07:57									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski You wanna know what I hate about my job as a nurse? The fact that you try to take care of your patients and the patient and family members go behind your back and do things they are not supposed to. i.e One of my patient diagosis congestive heart failure.no fluids at all. Only cause it could kill him if he takes them. Family member brings fluids and gives it to paient and patient takes it. Hence making my job harder. Another example patient has blood pressure of 80/ 40 next to death, wants pain meds. all pain meds hes on will drop his blood pressure causing death. while im looking for the dr to find something to relieve his pain family gives pain meds from home man goes down, C.P.R. is started mean while my other 13 patients are ignored cause of this. thats what I hate.

Did you make it crystal clear to the familys what would happen? I'm not being critical, just curious. I know that the nurses who work for the county at the same STD clinic are jealous of the time that our nurses can take with the patients that are recruited to our studies.

	05-02-2005 07:59									#22
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With the risk of pissing off the fellow dr.s or medical personal everyone needs to have somebody in the field as a friend. This way you can know if the dr you are seeing is comptent. I know its slander if you say the person is a yada yada ya however Ive have seen some drs i wouldnt let work on my dead dog. As well as nurses.

	05-02-2005 08:03									#23
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH Did you make it crystal clear to the familys what would happen? I'm not being critical, just curious. I know that the nurses who work for the county at the same STD clinic are jealous of the time that our nurses can take with the patients that are recruited to our studies.

Yes i did in both cases. I told these families that I am aware of the situatuon and let me find the dr to see what we can do. if you go around the specifications I gave you you can possible kill them. To take mesures in their own hands only worsens the situatuon. I explained to them i can empthysize with their agony however the easy soultion they wanted to fix their loved one could kill that indvidual.

	05-02-2005 08:07									#24
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I do realize it is hard to comfort a family member when somebody they love is that sick. And I know that a lot ofnon medical people think Im doing all that to be mean. In reality Im not trying to be mean, Im simply trying to preserve the patients life so he can go home to enjoy some more time with the family.

	05-02-2005 23:08									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski Believe you me its not the hospital making you wait it the wonderful doctor your seeing. Because while your waitng so are we in the O.R. Just waiting for mr wondeful to walk thru those doors.

I knew it. Those damn doctors are prancing around, thinking they own the place...

	05-02-2005 23:39									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Kamrat X I knew it. Those damn doctors are prancing around, thinking they own the place...

A lot of them do. The doctors dont work for the hospitals however the nurses do. The doctors are considered customers just as the patients. Which is a crock if you ask me. I have been cussed out by many surgeons and suspended many times for telling him to take a flying leap. As nurses we cant do a thing without a drs order, and if the order isnt there we have to wait for the doc to get back to us and call in the order. This goes for the smallest of small such as a glass of water, to an asprin, to whether the person can get out of bed.

	06-02-2005 03:53									#27
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I dislike patients who want sympathy rather than treatment.
Don't waste my time.
I dislike patients who are noncomplient to treatment and think they have a degree in medicine.
They really waste my time.

	06-02-2005 03:58									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Pave I hate two things; the almost a half hour's waitings that I usually have to have, and awful decorations. The wallpapers are straight from the 70's and they got these evil chairs, which I can't sit on without making some "un-estetic" sounds.

Sheesh, you've not been with the NHS before, have you? 4h+ is the routine...you could be dead by then...

	06-02-2005 04:25									#29
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Mrs. Tuberski:

I can't agree with you more about knowing the doctor who will be working with you.

Of course, I'm rather fortunate with my mom as a nurse, and my family doctor marrying into the family.

It just makes for better care.

	06-02-2005 04:29									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Docfeelgood I dislike patients who want sympathy rather than treatment. Don't waste my time. I dislike patients who are noncomplient to treatment and think they have a degree in medicine. They really waste my time.

So I'm wondering, are you a physician, and is this your real opinion, or are you just using it as an example of the attitude of the large numbers of useless burks who call themselves 'doctors'?