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OzzyKP is offline OzzyKP
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From: http://www.oneandfour.org/archives/...ing_closer.html


As if dress codes in school aren't bad enough, there could soon be a statewide dress code in effect for Virginia:

The Virginia House of Delegates has tentatively approved a bill to crack down on people who wear low-riding pants.

Freshman Norfolk Delegate Algie Howell Jr. introduced the bill at the urging of constituents who are offended by the exposed underwear.

Howell said, "That's why they're called undergarments. They're supposed to be worn under something else."

Delegates approved a measure that would allow police to assess a $50 fine on anyone who exposes their below-waist underpants in a "lewd or indecent manner."


Another anti-youth law passed by an anti-youth legislature meant to control another slight detail of how young people live their lives. While the bill doesn't specifically impose an age restriction, it is quite obvious that senior citizens don't sag their pants so they look cool on the shuffle board court.

One plea of dress code and school uniform supporters is that they are only policies governing one's clothing at school, students can still wear what they choose after school. Soon that might no longer be the case.

What types of governments seek to control every aspect of their citizens lives? Oh yea, governments like the Taliban that impose strict behavior and appearance guidelines on women, and governments like in the United States that impose strict behavior and appearance guidelines on youth. Thankfully we've progressed past stoning, but I'll thank you not to govern how high or low my pants must be.

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school dress codes (now that i don't have to follow them)

virginia public dress codes (since i don't live in virginia)

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ahh good ole Norfolk (where this all came about I believe).

for some reason, I don't miss living there. I hated Virginia. That's the reason I got out of the navy.

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Are there any nudist camps in Virginia?

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The law doesn't say anything about not wearing underwear at all.....

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While I would disagree in all other freedom of expression cases, in this ONE CASE, I agree with the young legislator completely....exposed underwear makes me mad.

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yeah I saw this.... what bullshit... Virginia is one of those states that needs to be nuked.

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Dress codes are good for students.

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Pekka: inching closer to 3.

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While I would disagree in all other freedom of expression cases, in this ONE CASE, I agree with the young legislator completely....exposed underwear makes me mad.


with lust?

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Are there any nudist camps in Virginia?


Actually, yes. However, I recall running across an article about how, by order of the government, a youth Nudist camp was required to have the parents of the youth present (and presumably nude) at all times.

In response to the OP, I live in Virginia. And this is exactly the sort of thing that I could see happening. For most Virginians (read: southern virginians), the crisis of the modern era is the decline on traditional values, and yes, one way to combat that is to make low-riding illegal.

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Actually, yes. However, I recall running across an article about how, by order of the government, a youth Nudist camp was required to have the parents of the youth present (and presumably nude) at all times.


I didn't really want to know. It was a facetious question.

Useful info though. Thanks.

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Low riding pants

Passing a bill outlawing them.

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Comparing a stupid law like this to a regime which tortured people for having movie, murdered people in ghastly ways, mandated religious attendance, and had the official policy that people should do nothing other then serve the state and pray is an insult to the people who suffered under the Taliban regime.

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Inching closer is meaningless when you're lightyears away, anyway.

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You have to forgive him. Ozzy is an idealogue with no sense of proportion.

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Now if there hadn't been global warming, this sort of fashion statement wouldn't be quite as popular...

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The title is a logical fallacy.. a complete stretch of what is really happening. Saying that America is inching closer to taliban rule is misleading. I think this thread should be locked because of that.

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Well I live in Virginia, and this doesn't surprise me at all. I have long called this state the Communistwealth. I think it's a stupid law though, and I'll write my state representative in opposition of this law. Ozzykp may be a demogouge in training, but I'm all for the revolutionary war "don't tread on me!" attitude!

Social libertarians unite!

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You have to forgive him. Ozzy is an idealogue with no sense of proportion.


and a prude at that.

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Dress codes are good for students.


How so?

And more to the point...how are no dress codes BAD for students?

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Comparing a stupid law like this to a regime which tortured people for having movie, murdered people in ghastly ways, mandated religious attendance, and had the official policy that people should do nothing other then serve the state and pray is an insult to the people who suffered under the Taliban regime.


Agreed 100 percent. The Republicans — more and more dominated by control freaks — are saving that for after they've destroyed the Democrats and all other relevant domestic counter-viewpoints.

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I think this thread should be locked because of that.


There have been many instances in which I think you should have been banned.

This is why neither of us is a moderator.

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Ah, a left winger's dilemma. Dress codes so we are "equal" or freedom? That is the question...

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Ted Striker likes uniforms for both serious and fantasy reasons

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Actually, we have this debate in Sweden too. Neither leftist feminists nor conservatives like that 13-year girls walk around in school, dressed like they were on their way to apply for a job at a strip bar or something.

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Ah, a left winger's dilemma. Dress codes so we are "equal" or freedom? That is the question...


There is no dilemma, this have nothing to do with economics and everything to do with puritanical prudes imposing thier cultural will over others.

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Bad move... now when you have to chase down those little punks to flog them they will be harder to catch!

 
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