11-02-2005 00:38									#61
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If someone held a gun to my head I´m not sure what I´d do.I´ve actually been in very few situations that called for violence. But when I ran the employee bar at the Göteborg Film Festival a few years back an american shithead director got a bit rowdy and aggressive. So after listening to his abuse for like half an hour, and after he refused to leave when told to do so, I managed to get him in a headlock and and throw him out on his ass.

I don´t know where the adrenalin came from, after I threw him out I was quite shaky. I stunned my fellow bartenders and long time friends (not to mention myself)

	11-02-2005 00:41									#62
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yes, and I have in the past...

	11-02-2005 13:57									#63
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I certainly hope I would be capable of being violent/killing.

There was one time that my best friend got drunk and violent, he was trying to start a fight with me but my sisters one of thier friends and my younger sisters husband (boyfriend at the time) were stopping him. I had the location of every item that could be used as a weapon in my head. Luckily he calmed down and I could leave.

Every other time in my life that a violent situation presented itself I was able to walk/run away.

	11-02-2005 18:36									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us I certainly hope I would be capable of being violent/killing. There was one time that my best friend got drunk and violent, he was trying to start a fight with me but my sisters one of thier friends and my younger sisters husband (boyfriend at the time) were stopping him. I had the location of every item that could be used as a weapon in my head. Luckily he calmed down and I could leave. Every other time in my life that a violent situation presented itself I was able to walk/run away.

Well look at you, your just a baby! I'm surprised that you were even able to run away.

	11-02-2005 19:30									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Was there leather/PVC clothes included, lots of NASTY language, erotic tensions and strong make up involved?

It was a typical night out round here....so yes, actually.

	11-02-2005 19:45									#66
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Non-violence never solved anything

	11-02-2005 23:54									#67
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I voted no.

I'm not a violent person. This is why I feel at odds with the world. Humans are so sadistic and cruel. I feel like I don't belong here.

yeah I own a gun, but that's for my own use should I need to. I don't intend on using it on others.

	12-02-2005 00:33									#68
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I voted no. I'm not a violent person. This is why I feel at odds with the world. Humans are so sadistic and cruel.

Violence is part of human nature, we can detour it towards more productive things, but we can't eliminate it.

	12-02-2005 00:48									#69
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber Could you use violence against someone if you were presented with no other way out of a situation where you or someone you loved would be either killed or bruttally attacked You can't run You can't reason with them You can't count on anyone help from authorities Are you going to lay down and die or allow your loved one to be harmed or are you going to defend yourself using violence.

Prob'ly so. I haven't had to use violence, but I faced down a guy with a knife who was trying to rob me. He obviously thought I'd use violence.

	12-02-2005 03:20									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin I've seen people I would never have expected just stand there when an explosion goes off or people start shooting. One fellow I had to grab and yank down behind the hesco barrier because he was just standing there with his mouth open. Commiting actual violence is pretty easy. You just aim and squeeze. Turburski has another point about some people getting so excited they just start spraying bullets every where. They got the squeeze part but forgot the aim part.

Reading the OP, I don't think that the situations you describe are included. You are very right about the stupidity certain people are capable of, and those who doesn't learn are quickly weeded out. Even the trigger happy people will quickly be reduced because they act stupidly.

As I read the question, it's more personal than war - it is about what you personally are able to do when you or people close to you are treatend. Those kind of threats are seldom involving explosives or guns (I know, Denmark isn't a gunparadise .

I have one time in my life been violent but had the luck that the idiot was a total whimp - he had severely harassed my sister, but my arm pressing against his throat make him tame. What worries me is that I actually don't know how I did it - it was done in split seconds, and afterwards there was the shaking (I know - adrenaline).

I think that everybody are capable of being violent, even those who claims that they can find a better way by thinking - they just have to be put into a situation where there are no time to think.

	12-02-2005 03:28									#71
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I think you can never really know until faced with the situation. I've gotten in my fair share of fights in my life, and I know I can be violent. However, enough to kill some one? I don't know, probably.

	15-02-2005 10:38									#72
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why in the hell did I vote no?

maybe because I was thinking of violence such as killing a person, or using a gun.

I have been in fights as a kid and teenager (but never as an adult).

but I'm a small person, and I admit I'm pretty much scared of everyone . So it's been in my nature not to get in fights. And I'm very non-confrontational. I pretty much do what people ask me. I could never get up in anyone's face. I have never done it in my lifetime.

But there was this one time I was involved in a home invasion (more of an apartmen invasion). I froze up, I didn't know what to do. So I just directed the guy to my wallet and let him take it. I don't think I could of acted even if I wanted to. I was taken by surprise and didn't have time to think.

Even though I like guns, and own a gun, I don't think I could ever use it because of that. I freeze up in fear. It's funny, I could never admit that in real life (because it makes me less of a man), but the anonyminity (I can't be arsed to look up the proper spelling of this word right now) of the internet can do strange things to a man (or half a man as the case may be).

There have only been a couple of times I have struck with my fist at another person. And strangely, I was not affected by fear there. I'm not sure why I did it.

Once I was in elementary school. I was too young to remember all the details. I think some kid was making fun of me. I got visibly upset, all the other kids were chanting "fight, fight" or something like that. The peer pressure may have got the best of me, so I charged up and punched the kid in the gut and knocked the air out of him. I admit, I shocked myself by that act. The look on his face, I thought I hurt him bad.

The other time was in high school, some guy I didn't like was accusing me of stealing something of another guy (who was bigger than me). I didn't want to get in trouble with the bigger guy for something I did not do, so I hit the guy who was accusing me (who was about the same size as me). Here's the really weird part for all you amateur psychologists out there. The kid was very similar to me. In all the time on my planet, I have never met anyone remotely like me, but this kid came the closest. I think it bothered me that this kid was so like me. He even joined the navy like me. Does that mean I hate myself? hmmm