10-02-2005 07:17									#1
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Could you use violence against someone if you were presented with no other way out of a situation where you or someone you loved would be either killed or bruttally attacked

You can't run
You can't reason with them
You can't count on anyone help from authorities

Are you going to lay down and die or allow your loved one to be harmed or are you going to defend yourself using violence.

	10-02-2005 07:19									#2
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Der.

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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Banana option

Bananas give me heartburn

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Violence

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Of course?

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hell yeah i could course i dont have a gun and would have to learn to use one but i could get violent if i had to.

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Of course

	10-02-2005 07:25									#10
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Absolutely.

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You'd be amazed how many people freeze when the chips are down.

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Can and have.

	10-02-2005 07:50									#13
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Violence... fun to watch, fun to do. The ultimate sport

I jest of course, being nothing but peace and love. Now if you'll excuse me, there's a jugular under my pillow

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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin You'd be amazed how many people freeze when the chips are down.

I know what you mean. Lots of confident people when the question is just pretend.

	10-02-2005 08:37									#15
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I punched one of my pseudo-friends, causing him to lose balance and chip a tooth. The main ones in the front.

It was pretty sweet, since he was a homophobic redneck and didn't see it coming.

I'm since less...brash...since I'm on meds.

	10-02-2005 09:40									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin You'd be amazed how many people freeze when the chips are down.

Which is the point I try to make with my conceal-carry buddies.

They will either freeze or end up causing more innocent lives lost.

ACK!

	10-02-2005 09:50									#17
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I don't really know since I haven't really killed anyone. But I like the idea.

You know, often when talking to people I start thinking about ways to kill them slowly without getting caught, afterwards bursting into laughter thinking how nobody would even see their dead corpse in one piece... they must think I'm insane. Come to think of it, perhaps that is a bit crazy.

	10-02-2005 10:19									#18
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I have a nasty temper which I learned to control through meditation years ago, but my fear is that in a situation where my life or that of someone else's in my immediate vicinity (even a stranger's) is in danger I won't be able to maintain that control I've worked so hard for. Quite frankly, if someone pulls a knife or gun on me and stabs/shoots me they'd better kill or incapacitate with the first strike or else they'll face someone with nothing to lose and no fear of death.

	10-02-2005 10:21									#19
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Meh, short tempers are underrated. Soon people know not to f*ck with you.

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I guess it partially stems from my desire not to be a hate crime victim or a statistic. I refuse to go gently into that not-so-good night ... I'm taking the f*cker with me.

	10-02-2005 10:25									#21
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Buy a grenade and practice a totally crazy face.

	10-02-2005 10:27									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber Could you use violence against someone if you were presented with no other way out of a situation where you or someone you loved would be either killed or bruttally attacked You can't run You can't reason with them You can't count on anyone help from authorities Are you going to lay down and die or allow your loved one to be harmed or are you going to defend yourself using violence.

I could soooo just kill someone just for fun. j/k

	10-02-2005 10:27									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Buy a grenade and practice a totally crazy face.

Nah, splattering thine enemy isn't as fun as skinning and disemboweling them while they're still alive.

	10-02-2005 10:33									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber I know what you mean. Lots of confident people when the question is just pretend.

I know I don't hesitate when it's a fistfight.

As for deadly force, I agree that you probably won't know until it happens.

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When my blood's up I know I have the capability to hurt somebody. After it's over, though, I sit around and shake for a half hour.

	10-02-2005 11:07									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin You'd be amazed how many people freeze when the chips are down.

True but since we are being asked to answer now, thats all we can do.

Might I freeze? Sure. I haven't been ever involved in any form of violence as an adult. I see it as a last resort. But the question left no other choice. Its use violence or see my son killed. In that circumstance, you bet I think myself capable of violence.

I only hope I never have to find out for real

	10-02-2005 11:09									#27
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Moral paradoxes (such as the one stated above) are manifestations of previous failures. If the need to resort to violence has arisen, then whatever falls upon me is deserved.

	10-02-2005 11:13									#28
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Have done so before on numerous occasions, but certainly not recently.

It's like what Krazyhorse talks about, getting your blood up.

As for deadly force? No clue.

	10-02-2005 11:16									#29
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Violence? Yes.

Competent violence? No.

Deadly force? Not even close.

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my first instinct is no

I think I would have a lot harder time with my fists or something than a gun

but than, I do beleive that violence is a way to solve problems

I just odn't want to do it

Jon Miller