24-03-2005 02:16									#91
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	24-03-2005 02:38									#92
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Once more please Andy

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	24-03-2005 16:29									#93
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looks from your screenshot that you opened it up in 1.21. we're using 1.15 in this game.

i'll replay and re-send just in case.

	24-03-2005 18:27									#94
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Good call - had a few to many beers after work last night - you could very possibly (almost 100%) be correct

	24-03-2005 19:28									#95
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does anyone have any comments on this strange wonder disappearance phenomenon?

	26-03-2005 06:12									#96
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yeah vicious and harsh war with vicious and harsh indians

	29-03-2005 01:18									#97
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Paddy what's going on there? your cities appear to be disbanded?

turn away

no combat this turn.

	30-03-2005 04:51									#98
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Paddy I hope you're not chucking the towel in. Why needlessly raise your cities?

	30-03-2005 18:02									#99
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hey, not needless, just digging in from Indian hordfes\


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	05-04-2005 01:18									#100
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well i've just played the save and it looks very needless to me.

why disband wonder cities that are not under threat??

i established an embassy in your capital and saw that you have entertainers that are not needed that could be working production tiles during your GA.

very very dissapointing.

i guess that's the game fuked then.

my only question is why?

	05-04-2005 07:13									#101
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oh calm down matey...

you took out a civ, did not finish the game...

and you obviously a better player than I in this

and if you want to swap civs, so be it

you ask why, I say play on....

	05-04-2005 18:23									#102
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The title of this thread says it all...

	05-04-2005 18:36									#103
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yes it does...

but must play the way others want or else

	05-04-2005 18:37									#104
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I'm a bit disappointed in this game and don't think there's any point continuing But there plenty more PBEMS on the go

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	05-04-2005 18:44									#105
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why not continue.... you have won several battles...

and the war looks to be yours at this stage

	06-04-2005 14:08									#106
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640ad to Andy

	07-04-2005 23:55									#107
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	08-04-2005 00:34									#108
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Gents,

I've carried out a reconciliation of my situation in this game and it stands as follows:

I am a considerable distance behind in techs.
I have very few improvements - 4 in total in all my cities.
No irrigation.
Largest city city is 5, 1 size 4 and the rest 3 or less.
A relocated capital in a very poor position.
A handfull of troops at the most.

I certainly don't stand a chance if this game were to continue.

	08-04-2005 10:55									#109
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yet your troops have beaten back my masses of Medieval Infantry...

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	08-04-2005 12:22									#110
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	08-04-2005 14:32									#111
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quote: Originally posted by Mickeyj Gents, I've carried out a reconciliation of my situation in this game and it stands as follows: I am a considerable distance behind in techs. I have very few improvements - 4 in total in all my cities. No irrigation. Largest city city is 5, 1 size 4 and the rest 3 or less. A relocated capital in a very poor position. A handfull of troops at the most. I certainly don't stand a chance if this game were to continue.

Neither you or Paddy stand a chance to win now, that is for certain.

I thought that if one of you could beat the other then with all that extra land you may have eventually caught me up, but this is no longer possible as Paddy committed hari-kari (the reason for which still escapes me) after dismissing India from the southern continent. This act of destroying his own core effectively sealed my eventual victory.

I now have nearly 3 times as many cities as both of you, several size 12. My primary core is completely built up with city improvements, including markets, and are now producing horses, workers, or wealth. I have my FP completed, not to mention the Hero Epic. I have pre-builds that will ensure I get the Chapel and the Cathedral. I already have the Workshop and all other remaining wonders except the Lighthouse. I've started on the AoW simply because there was nothing else for me to build. I have just completed Gunpowder. My army is massive compared to both of you. I'm not bragging or anything, just trying to show how that the outcome of this game is pretty much decided.

It is no longer any fun for me to continue a decided game.

	08-04-2005 14:41									#112
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oh you do go on and on and on of the decisions of others and the fun you have lost... so is this finished then?

	08-04-2005 17:14									#113
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Yes it is finished, and this will be my last post on the issue.

Sorry for my whinging but I'm still baffled by all this, and disappointed because I was really enjoying this game.

Paddy I think you're a top bloke. I enjoy your sense of humor and admire how you create a bond between players and a real sense of solidarity. It is easy to see why you are so popular in these forums. But I simply don’t understand where you are coming from in all this. I’m not giving you sh!t about a bad decision if that’s what it was, I’m not that sort of person. But clearly you’re an intelligent bloke, so to raise half your primary core looks more to be an act of chucking in the towel than a mistake. You haven’t explained why you did it, you have only told me to calm down when I expressed my disappointment and then you offered to quit all our games.

I’m at the point now where I’m happy to remain baffled and would rather just forget all this and carry on with our other games hoping that they will go a bit better. I enjoy the company of this group, and are enjoying our other games. I wouldn’t want our dynamic to suffer. The next game we start should be called “Easygoing? Probably not!”

	08-04-2005 17:17									#114
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Gents,

I'm ready to concede this game to Andydog

It was my first PBEM with you lot and I have enjoyed it immensely, although naively played.

I’ll be happy to play another game, the Rome scenario perhaps?

Anybody know what the 1799 story is?

	08-04-2005 17:20									#115
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well would you be interested in us goingback several turns before the great disaster of England?

yeah I know this goes in the face of my comments on the Sword of the Shogun thread, but I am enjoying this game as well, and am not ready to finish it...

so shalll we reverse the clocks and carry on

	08-04-2005 17:23									#116
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If andydog is happy to do that, I won't mind at all

	08-04-2005 18:27									#117
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quote: Originally posted by Mickeyj It was my first PBEM with you lot and I have enjoyed it immensely, although naively played.

Sorry, I have the rights to this. I was building wonders while the Persian war machine was drafting ever last poor Persian peasant and pressing a weapon into his hands.

Then again, my Chinese swamp kingdom probably didn't have the production potential needed...and the lack of iron probably didn't help...

	08-04-2005 19:23									#118
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quote: Originally posted by Shogun Gunner Sorry, I have the rights to this. I was building wonders while the Persian war machine was drafting ever last poor Persian peasant and pressing a weapon into his hands. Then again, my Chinese swamp kingdom probably didn't have the production potential needed...and the lack of iron probably didn't help...

Apologies - the honour is all yours

	08-04-2005 19:34									#119
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Guys - Including Shogun who appears to be a thread lurker intent on seeing the destruction of the Persians

I'm all for enjoying the games and have been enjoying the ones with you lot. so.........................

I think this game has actually reached a satisfactory conclusion. Paddy took a risk to wipe out me which backfired (fair enough it was a risk after all). It didn't work and unfortunately handed the game to AD. So be it, that was the way the game panned out

I'm quite keen to start another game with you lot and I've been reading the forums and AD is involved in an interesting game - the 5 continents of Eden, would anybody else be interested in starting another game along these lines?

	08-04-2005 19:45									#120
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The Eden game rocks!

Five of us started on five roughly equal continents in terms of land and resources. The minimum separation between a continent was 3 ocean tiles. We gave ourselves 3 traits (so as to get rid of the overpowered Ag trait), chose our UU and went for it.

Here is the thread.

We could do something like this but with 4 bigger continents? We would need someone independent to set it up (could get them to set up another Shogun game at the same time).

Conqueror set up the Eden game for us, but he doesn't come to poly much so it might be better to get someone else to do it.

Are we keen for this? I am.

If so does anyone know someone who could set the game up?