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Intelligence thread Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

I think it is a good idea to put the information for other teams on one place and allow better analyzing of the current situation.
Most information is aquired from F11 screen but there are useful tips on F3, F4, F7 and F8 too.

The meanings of F11 categories:

Approval rating:
The percentage of your people that are happy. If every single person is happy, you have 100%. If everyone is content it is 50%. Edit: This can be misleading when you get specialists, because the specialists count as only content people. So even if everyone is happy or an entertainer, you won't have 100% approval rating if you have any specialists.

Rounddown (50% + ((Number of happy citizens) - (Number of unhappy citizens)) / (Total number of citizens) / 2 * 100%)

Population: Add up all the population you get from the city view from all your cities. Not population points, like size 1, 2 or 3, etc. but the 10,000 or 100,000 you see under the city name.
Sum(i=1..N) {Pop in City(i)}
Pop in City = {Sum (j=1..(City Size)) {j} + (Food in Storage) / (Storage Size)} * 10000


GNP: Total gold in all your cities before corruption takes a bite out of it.
1 gold= 1 million

Mfg. Goods: Total unwasted shields in all your cities.
1 shield = 1 megaton.

Land Area: # of tiles in your territory * 100.
1 Tile =100 square miles
Sea is included in this, but does not help in the territory part of your game score.

Literacy (%)
(Citizens who live in a city with a Library + Citizens who live in a city with a University + Citizens who live in a city with a Research Lab) / 3 / (Total Number of Citizens) * 100% + (3% if Literature discovered)
If every city has just a library you will have 33%, because they are missing the other 2 science buildings.

Edit: Or live in a city with 1 or more scientific Great Wonders (Great Library, Newtons, SETI, Theory of Evolution, Cure for Cancer, and Internet) Copernicus's does not count because despite it helps science, it isn't given the scientific flag. Having 1 of those wonders counts the same as if they had all the other improvements in the city. Two small wonders (apollo and Intelligence Agency) give you credit for having 50% science in that city. You also get 3% added to your literacy rate when you get the literature tech. No bonus when you get education. Great Library still helps your literacy rate even after it is obsolete.

Disease (%)
(Number of Floodplains + Jungle in territory) / (Total Number of territory tiles) * 100%

Pollution: # of tiles that are currently polluted. 1 ton = 1 polluted territory tile

Life Expectancy (# of years)
20 + {(Citizens who live in a city with a Granary + Citizens who live in a city with a Aqueduct + Citizens who live in a city with a Hospital) / 3 / (Total Number of Citizens) * 80}

Family Size: The average amount of excess food that each city is producing/2. If you have 1 city that is producing 4 extra food, that 4 food would feed 2 people, so your family size would be 2 children. Minimum is 1, hard to say exactly what the max would be. In most cases you won't see this above 2, maybe 3 or 4 if all your cities are extremely rich in food, experiencing a very fast growth period or just put down a alot of railroads on irrigated tiles.

Military Service: 10 years * # of military units / # of citizens. Military units are units with an attack and defense value, so workers, scouts and princesses don't count. Kings do. So at the start of a mass regicide game you will have a military service of 70 years because of the 7 military units *10 years divided by just your 1 citizen. 0 years if you have no army or you have just a few units, but thousands of population points.

Annual Income: The number of connected strategic/luxury resource types in your territory. The minimum value is 1 and you get a +1 bonus for your first trade route with another civ. Thanks DaveMcW

Productivity: The total amount of uncorrupted gold, unwasted shields, and excess food you are producing in all your cities
(Total Shields) - (Total Waste) + (Total Commerce) - (Total Corruption) + (Net Total Food)

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4000 BC, end of turn Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Approval Rating 100% 1
Population 10k 1
GNP 4 2
MFG 3 1
Land Area 900 1
Life Expectancy 20 1
Family Size 1 1
Annual income 2 1
Military Service 20 1
Productivity 9 2
City Team Size
Carthage Transylvanians 1

The other screens have no information yet

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3950 BC Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Approval Rating 100% 1
Population 12k 1
GNP 4 4
MFG 3 1
Land Area 900 1
Life Expectancy 20 1
Family Size 1 1
Annual income 2 1
Military Service 20 1
Productivity 9 3
City Team Size
Ravnos (ex. Carthage) Transylvanians 1
Inner Sanctum Desolation Row 1
Babylon Babylon 1
Karakorum Conquerors (not us) 1
Team Score
Euphorica 0
Conquerors 0
Babylon 0
Desolation Row 0
Transylvanians 55
Ankh-Morpork 55

 

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Approval Rating 100% 1
Population 14k 4
GNP 4 6
MFG 3 4
Land Area 900 4
Life Expectancy 20 1
Family Size 1 2
Annual income 2 1
Military Service 20 1
Productivity 9 6
City Team Size
Ravnos (ex. Carthage) Transylvanians 1
Inner Sanctum Desolation Row 1
Babylon Babylon 1
Karakorum Conquerors (not us) 1
Team Score
Euphorica 27
Conquerors 27
Babylon 25
Desolation Row 27
Transylvanians 55
Ankh-Morpork 55

Based on my calcuations two teams have 3 cities, 1 team is with 2, we and two more are with 1 city yet.

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3850 BC before building our 2 cities Suffering from ads?

Approval Rating 100% 1
Population 17k 6
GNP 4 6
MFG 3 6
Land Area 900 6
Life Expectancy 20 1
Family Size 1 2
Military Service 20 1
Annual income 2 1
Productivity 10 6
City Team Size
Transylvania Transylvanians 1
Inner Sanctum Desolation Row 1
Babylon Babylon 1
Karakorum Conquerors 1
Team Score
Euphorica 53
Conquerors 70
Babylon 66
Desolation Row 36
Transylvanians 55
Ankh-Morpork 55

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Approval Rating 66% 5
Population 37k 3
GNP 11 2
MFG 7 1
Land Area 2800 1
Literacy 0% 1
Disease 3% 5
Pollution 0 1
Life Expectancy 20 1
Family Size 1 4
Military Service 6 6
Annual income 1 4
Productivity 23 1
City Team Size
Transylvania Transylvanians 1
Inner Sanctum Desolation Row 1
Babylon Babylon 1
Karakorum Conquerors 1
Team Score
Euphorica 53
Conquerors 70
Babylon 66
Desolation Row 36
Transylvanians 55
Ankh-Morpork 55


There are still two settler - I guess two teams founded only 2 cities

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Approval Rating 66% 6
Population 44k 2
GNP 11 3
MFG 7 1
Land Area 2800 1
Literacy 0% 1
Disease 3% 4
Pollution 0 1
Life Expectancy 20 1
Family Size 1 5
Military Service 10 1
Annual income 1 1
Productivity 23 1
City Team Size
Transylvania Transylvanians 1
Inner Sanctum Desolation Row 1
Babylon Babylon 1
Karakorum Conquerors 1
Team Score
Euphorica 66
Conquerors 91
Babylon 88
Desolation Row 53
Transylvanians 67
Ankh-Morpork 81

Everyone has founded their cities. We are one position higher in Disease and one position lower with family size - I tihnk someone has settled near flood plains

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3750 BC Enter the AD-FREE zone

Approval Rating 66% 6
Population 51k 2
GNP 12 3
MFG 7 1
Land Area 2800 1
Literacy 0% 1
Disease 3% 4
Pollution 0 1
Life Expectancy 20 1
Family Size 1 6
Military Service 10 2
Annual income 1 2
Productivity 24 1
City Team Size
Transylvania Transylvanians 1
Inner Sanctum Desolation Row 1
Babylon Babylon 1
Khan's Blood Hall Conquerors 1
Team Score
Euphorica 85
Conquerors 104
Babylon 102
Desolation Row 74
Transylvanians 86
Ankh-Morpork 97

Some intelligence from Krill:
3 teams, including us, are at 12gpt
there are 3 civs with 5 MFG
2 civs are at 4spt, so of those twoo teams, only the capital shouold be producing an extra shield
maybe they have flood plains and are trying to generate population faster
noone has a lower productivity that 20

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please note that this:

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2 civs are at 4spt, so of those two teams, only the capital should be producing an extra shield


is aan assumption, but a logical one.

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Tech costs


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Research Cost = [MM * [10*COST * (1 - N/[CL*1.75])]/(CF * 10)] - Research done so far


Research Cost and research done so far are in gold.

Square brackets indicate truncation /rounddown

MM = map modifier(tech rate on world sizes tab in the editor)

Small 200

CF = AI cost factor(as on the difficulty tab in the editor)
For the purposes of the research cost formula, CF has a maximum value of 10.

Emperor 8

COST = technology cost as on the civilization advances tab in the editor.

N = number of civs on the diplomacy screen that have discovered the tech.

CL = number of civs left in the game

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Bronze working - tech cost 3, 75 bakers
Wheel - tech cost 4, 100 bakers, etc.

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I looked up the soource from ormuzds post, and I understand why I don't have a clue about programming. I can speak English, french, German, and lot of Latin, but that is the most insane language that have ever seen...

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3700 BC Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Approval Rating 66% 6
Population 58k 2
GNP 13 1
MFG 7 1
Land Area 2800 1
Literacy 0% 1
Disease 3% 4
Pollution 0 1
Life Expectancy 20 1
Family Size 1 6
Military Service 10 2
Annual income 1 4
Productivity 25 1
City Team Size
Transylvania Transylvanians 1
Inner Sanctum Desolation Row 1
Babylon Babylon 1
Khan's Blood Hall Conquerors 1
Team Score
Euphorica 97
Conquerors 112
Babylon 111
Desolation Row 88
Transylvanians 98
Ankh-Morpork 107



GNP : Amount
1st : 13 (us)
2nd : 12
3rd : 12
4th : 11
5th : 11
6th : 8



MFG: Amount
1st : 7 (us)
2nd : 5
3rd : 5
4th : 5
5th : 5
6th : 4

Attachment: 3650bc f11.jpg
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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Approval Rating 83% 2
Population 65k 2
GNP 12 3
MFG 7 1
Land Area 2800 1
Literacy 0% 1
Disease 3% 4
Pollution 0 1
Life Expectancy 20 1
Family Size 1 5
Military Service 10 3
Annual income 1 4
Productivity 25 1
City Team Size
Transylvania Transylvanians 1
Inner Sanctum Desolation Row 1
Babylon Babylon 1
Khan's Blood Hall Conquerors 1
Team Score
Euphorica 106
Conquerors 118
Babylon 118
Desolation Row 98
Transylvanians 107
Ankh-Morpork 115


The Horde has Bronze working and Warrior Code (+Masonry and Pottery).

Noone has city size 2 yet.

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Approval Rating 62% 5
Population 72k 2
GNP 15 1
MFG 8 1
Land Area 2800 1
Literacy 0% 1
Disease 3% 4
Pollution 0 1
Life Expectancy 20 1
Family Size 1 6
Military Service 12 4
Annual income 1 2
Productivity 28 1
City Team Size
Thebes Eygptians 2
Transylvania Transylvanians 2
AbbA Euphorica 2
Inner Sanctum Desolation Row 1
Babylon Babylon 1
Team Score
Euphorica 113
Conquerors 123
Babylon 123
Desolation Row 106
Transylvanians 115
Ankh-Morpork 121










The Horde has Bronze working and Warrior Code (+Masonry and Pottery).


Only us, Euphorica, and L(ost) B(oys) have a city at size 2 yet.

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Turn 10, 3550 BC Put an end to popups!

Approval Rating 62% 4
Population 79 k 2
GNP 15 2
MFG 8 2
Land Area 2800 1
Literacy 0% 1
Disease 3% 4
Pollution 0 1
Life Expectancy 20 1
Family Size 1 6
Military Service 12 2
Annual income 1 3
Productivity 28 2
City Team Size
Transylvania Transylvanians 2
Inner Sanctum Desolation Row 1
Khan's Blood Hall Conquerors 2
Euphorica AbbA 2
Team Score
Euphorica 118
Conquerors 127
Babylon 127
Desolation Row 112
Transylvanians 120
Ankh-Morpork 126

The Horde has the Alphabet
Babylon has BW
Only the Desolation Row doesn't have size 2 city (or someone else has 2 size 2 cities)

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Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Approval Rating 72% 2
Population 86 k 2
GNP 14 3
MFG 10 1
Land Area 3500 2
Literacy 0% 1
Disease 2% 5
Pollution 0 1
Life Expectancy 20 1
Family Size 1 5
Military Service 12 2
Annual income 1 4
Productivity 29 1
City Team Size
Transylvania Transylvanians 2
Khan's Blood Hall Conquerors 2
Euphorica AbbA 2
Inner Sanctum Desolation Row 1
Team Score
Euphorica 123
Conquerors 131
Babylon 131
Desolation Row 117
Transylvanians 125
Ankh-Morpork 130

Someone is making 15 gpt and nobody is making more than 8 spt

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