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WASHINGTON - Cartoon characters are once again the object of criticism from American religious groups. This time, the target is Disney's "Pooh's Heffalump movie".

The film's plot focuses on the critters of the Hundred Acre Woods and their quest to hunt down the mysterious "Heffalump". While Rabbit, Tigger and Pooh have never actually seen the Heffalump, stories abound about its vicious attitude and appetite for cuddly-wuddlies, instilling fear in our big screen furry friends.

When little Roo (voiced by Nikita Hopkins) stumbles upon the Heffalump himself, he learns that the giant creature is just as afraid of them as they are of him. Without killing the plot too much, once everyone meets the Heffalump they find out just how much they have in common with each other, and hilarity ensues while warm fuzzies fly.

But that's a very narrow view of the film, according to Focus on the Family founder Dr. James C. Dobson, who called the film an "anti-bigotry love fest" which aims to "brainwash our children" and "promote tolerance, acceptance, peace, and the liberal agenda."

A message from Dobson on the Focus on the Family website warns parents that exposure to this film could cause their children to become Homosexual Muslim "tigger-lovers".

Posts on the website's message board seemed to echo Dobson's concerns, with much of the concern falling on Disney's choice for the Heffalump's pink and purple hue. "They could have picked any color at all, but pink and purple?! And what's with the British accent anyway? God knows all those limeys are peace-loving hippie gaywads!" wrote one alarmed visitor.

Another poster inquired as to why none of the characters in the movie appeared to be wearing any clothes. "It's an absolute outrage!", he wrote, fearing that his child would grow up thinking that not wearing clothes and frolicking in the woods was 'normal behavior'.

British youth Kyle Stranger, who plays the voice of the Heffalump, denies trying to promote an agenda, and thought the film had "a good message".

Reacting to Focus on the Family's statements, several church leaders across America have urged concerned parents to boycott the film and instead rent and watch Mel Gibson's acclaimed "The Passion of the Christ" as a family.

In response to the outcry, Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA) proposed legislation yesterday that would severely limit the ability for such movies to be produced without proper screening.

The MPAA has considered adding a new letter rating for movies to prevent children from being exposed to movies with messages that parents might disagree with. "The fear is that movies rated 'G' might be thought of as being "Gay", and end up boycotted altogether," said acting MPAA President Dan Glickman. "We just don't want to send confusing messages to our customers."

Pop-Artists "Spin Doctors", who are featured on the movie's soundtrack, did not escape criticism either. One former fan wrote the now defunct group, threatening to boycott all of the band's future tours and albums if they did not clearly distance themselves from the film and its message. Following the path set by a North Carolina McDonalds which first coined the phrase "Freedom Fries", several Christian Rock radio stations have now started a new trend, referring disgustedly to the hit-track by the name "Two Queens".

Disney planned for the movie to help market Heffalump merchandise and revitalize lagging "Winnie the Pooh" related sales. Plans to add a Heffalump ride at the Disneyworld amusement park in Orlando have been put on hold until it is discovered just how hard this protest will hit.

Are the connections coincidental?

According to Heffalump Movie co-writer Brian Hohlfeld, things have gotten way out of hand. While he admits that the choice of colors may have been made in error, he denies the accusation that he is part of a vast leftist conspiracy bent on legalizing gay marriage, expanding nudist colonies, erecting statues of Buddha, using marijuana for medicinal purposes, and global domination.

"It's absolutely absurd!" Hohlfeld said. "Sure, I may have experimented a little with different religions in college, but it was just a phase I went through."

But Dobson sees things differently. "If we allow someone with such poor devotion to morals and God to direct the movies our children view, what will become of our society? Soon the boy you tried so hard to raise properly is going to want to marry a colored girl. And guess what, if we don't stop this nonsense, that sort of thing will be made legal!"

When later informed that the last of the restrictions on race in state-recognized marriage had been overturned in a landmark 1967 court case, Dobson became even more vigilant. "See, it's already happening! When are people going to stand up and fight for the Christian values that we all know and love?"

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I still hope this isnīt real but just something from Onion

But I understand Dobson.
Promoting things like tolerance, peace and social acceptance can really endanger a society.

Better have a narrow minded society which is full of vuilence. Such things are good for people, especially if they are arms dealers

Of course you should first get rid of christianity, as AFAIK Jesus Christ could rather be considered as someone, who stood for these dangerous things such as tolerance, peace and social acceptance than like someone who wanted to bring his belief to others via fire, sword and social pressure.

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Even if it is from the Onion, it sounds sadly plausible from that bunch of nutters.

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Ref jesus.

But would he have worn pink?

But i do have some sympathy with a percieved 'gay' agenda in the media, particularly if its being targeted at young children. I would rather teach those things to my children myself.

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This can't possibly be real, can it?

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My gives a **** is broken.

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You should get a better gives a ****, cause you are obviously not getting your money's worth with that one.

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It's probably made in Taiwan.

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Heathens promoting tolerance?

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But that's a very narrow view of the film, according to Focus on the Family founder Dr. James C. Dobson, who called the film an "anti-bigotry love fest" which aims to "brainwash our children" and "promote tolerance, acceptance, peace, and the liberal agenda."


NOOOOOOoooooooooo, the hOrrOr!!!!! F***ing tolerance promoting Nazi's!!!!

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Who writes this crap? Where did the Passion of the Christ come in?

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Seriously, are you lot for real?

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If this is in fact real (and it wouldn't surprise me considering Dobson's reaction to Spongebob), then I'm not sure what's the most appropriate fate for this idiot and those who listen to him: being beaten across the face repeatedly with a piece of heavy mining equipment, or being thrown screaming from a helicopter.

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Maybe he should come out of his little closet and get it over with.

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I was listening to a professor of Linguistics at UC Berkeley the other day on the radio. He said that the conservative philosophy all breaks down to this guy Dobson's philosophy about raising children. He believes that you need to punish your children severly until they feel enough pain that they develope their on code of morality. In constrast, liberals (US) believe more in reasoning with their children. The difference is that conservatives believe that all children are bad, and need to be made good, and liberals believe that children are already good, and can be reasoned with.

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I was listening to a professor of Linguistics at UC Berkeley the other day on the radio. He said that the conservative philosophy all breaks down to this guy Dobson's philosophy about raising children. He believes that you need to punish your children severly until they feel enough pain that they develope their on code of morality. In constrast, liberals (US) believe more in reasoning with their children. The difference is that conservatives believe that all children are bad, and need to be made good, and liberals believe that children are already good, and can be reasoned with.


Same coinage of the guy who wrote the article, different face.

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This article is nothing but lies though. I went to the Focus on the Family website. Focus on the Family approves of this movie.

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Heh heh, you said, "pooh."

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You know, this whole political rhetoric thing is really starting to get stale. Bleh.

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Same coinage of the guy who wrote the article, different face.


Well this guy (Leicoff I think) said that he developed a breakdown of conservative philosophy from a liberal perspective and he asked his conservative friends if he got it right. They said "almost, but you say nothing about Dobson."

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You know, this whole political rhetoric thing is really starting to get stale. Bleh.


What do you mean, "starting"?

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I was listening to a professor of Linguistics at UC Berkeley the other day on the radio. He said that the conservative philosophy all breaks down to this guy Dobson's philosophy about raising children. He believes that you need to punish your children severly until they feel enough pain that they develope their on code of morality. In constrast, liberals (US) believe more in reasoning with their children. The difference is that conservatives believe that all children are bad, and need to be made good, and liberals believe that children are already good, and can be reasoned with.


George Lakoff is actually in a fascinating position. His schtick is the power of metaphors in politics, and interestingly enough, John Kerry got his "a stronger america" slogan directly from Lakoff. Dean, too, is looking for ways to capitalize on Lakoff's research.

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I was listening to a professor of Linguistics at UC Berkeley the other day on the radio. He said that the conservative philosophy all breaks down to this guy Dobson's philosophy about raising children. He believes that you need to punish your children severly until they feel enough pain that they develope their on code of morality. In constrast, liberals (US) believe more in reasoning with their children. The difference is that conservatives believe that all children are bad, and need to be made good, and liberals believe that children are already good, and can be reasoned with.




Children are neither good nor bad, but amoral, as in unaware of morality. Did you not have to teach your son* right from wrong?

*Something you said earlier made me believe you had a kid. If not, my bad.

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He's right in normal day-to-day language though, imo.

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Children are neither good nor bad, but amoral, as in unaware of morality. Did you not have to teach your son* right from wrong?

*Something you said earlier made me believe you had a kid. If not, my bad.


The real point Lakoff makes is not the teaching of right and wrong to the childen, but how you do it. Essentially, Lakoff proposes two models, the strict-father model and the nurturant parent model, and then says that the right and the left, respectively, try to apply these models to politics.

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Children are neither good nor bad, but amoral, as in unaware of morality. Did you not have to teach your son* right from wrong?

*Something you said earlier made me believe you had a kid. If not, my bad.


I think I had to give him spankings when he was very little, because he had no ability to reason. By the age of 5 though he seems very able to reason most of the time. Of course no one really developes their morality completely until they are adults.

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I always distrust articles people post without a link so we can find out the source. Often they turn out to be wrong like this one.

Not that it will stop some people from continuing their endless bleating.

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What do you mean, "starting"?


Yeah, point taken.

 
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