13-02-2005 19:28									#1
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A news story on my local radio said the New York health department found two men with a form of aids that mutated from HIV to full blown aids in 3 months... it can take 10 years.


I've been unable to find anything about this online.... if this is true... OY.

Anyone got a link to a "legitamite" news source with this info?

	13-02-2005 19:30									#2
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If only all the cases were like that. Then the disease could be much easier to control.

	13-02-2005 19:33									#3
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What makes you think that this'd be some kind of new form of HI-virus? It's not that rare for it to take less than a year if you don't take any medicine.

Then again, I'm wishing it to be true... if there'd me a new form of HIV which'd turn into AIDS within a very short timespan, it'd practically greatly lower the amount of people infected in the long run (and wipe out secularists & perverts quicker).

	13-02-2005 19:37									#4
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I forgot the part of the report which said it was resistant to all known anti HIV drugs.

	13-02-2005 19:47									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Vesayen I forgot the part of the report which said it was resistant to all known anti HIV drugs.

All but 1.

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Is this where I say "what" and then you say "abstinence"? heh If that is not the case... I assume you heard about this, got a link?


I am a big promoter of abstinence but *shrug* you can't really advise people to be abstinent because it takes an amount of self controll many people are unwilling to use. People have to choose to do it on their own.

	13-02-2005 19:58									#7
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Heard about it on NPR. They're the ones that said it was resistant to all but one class of drugs. They neglected to mention which class though.

	13-02-2005 20:07									#8
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quote: Originally posted by DaShi If only all the cases were like that. Then the disease could be much easier to control.

This is true. Many of the most deadly diseases in human history were so virulant that they killed everyone in the immediate area thus there was no one left to transmite the germs and the outbreak was contained.

In other news NYC health officials have also announced that a new retroviral resistant strain of HIV had been discovered. It appears some people knew they had HIV, were taking anti-retroviral drugs to control the HIV, and still went around having unprotected sex. How ****ed up is that?

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Fast acting diseases wiping out their populations quickly due to limited transportation MAY no longer apply... I won't claim expertise on the subject but we, especially the industrialized west can move around.... fast. If some man with this disease has sex in say, four different parts of the country....?

The first person diagnosed with aids was a canadian airline attendant...

	13-02-2005 20:13									#10
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Oh. Well, if the report is true, then . This is great news. Actually, I think I'll order a Sunday evening pizza to celebrate this a bit.

	13-02-2005 20:14									#11
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Damn Canadians!

	13-02-2005 20:25									#12
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Heard about it on NPR. They're the ones that said it was resistant to all but one class of drugs. They neglected to mention which class though.

the story I posted mentioned that a company that produces said drugs stock was up.

	13-02-2005 20:26									#13
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I would imagine so.

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	13-02-2005 20:29									#15
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If this is gonna be any similar to what has happened to antibiotics, the virus is going to become resistant eventually to those drugs, too; am I correct?

	13-02-2005 20:39									#16
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This is not fair. 50 year ago people could **** around without that much fear.

	13-02-2005 20:44									#17
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Isn't there a story somewhere that people who are naturally resistant to the Bubonic (or Pneumonic) Plague are also resistant to HIV/AIDS.

My obscure factoid of the day.

	13-02-2005 22:35									#18
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Which might or might not be true since you're not sure.

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The experts agree: ppl who are naturally resistant to Bubonic Plague may or may not be resistant to HIV/AIDS

	13-02-2005 22:40									#20
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No, they reckon the selection pressure of Plague wasn't enough. It was probably originally a smallpox resistance, although it may also have contributed to plague resistance.

	13-02-2005 22:50									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson This is not fair. 50 year ago people could **** around without that much fear.

Not really, they just dies of diseases we can now cure.

	13-02-2005 22:50									#22
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quote: Originally posted by alva Which might or might not be true since you're not sure.

As indicated by the term factoid rather than the term fact.

	13-02-2005 22:56									#23
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Ah, didn't know there was difference.

I shalt never question you again, O great flipper...

	13-02-2005 22:59									#24
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Just know your place in future, Belgican.

	13-02-2005 23:55									#25
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quote: Originally posted by VJ What makes you think that this'd be some kind of new form of HI-virus? It's not that rare for it to take less than a year if you don't take any medicine.

That's not true. Even in the days before anti-retroviral therapy most people infected lived for about ten years after becoming infected. How rapidly the disease progresses depends upon the route of infection. Those infected via sex have a longer "latent" period, about 10 years, while those infected via transfusion of contaminated blood products generally have the shortest, about 3 years. The disease also has tended to develop more rapidly in Afriicans than Americans and Europeans and in those with underlying debilitating diseases.

quote: Then again, I'm wishing it to be true... if there'd me a new form of HIV which'd turn into AIDS within a very short timespan, it'd practically greatly lower the amount of people infected in the long run (and wipe out secularists & perverts quicker).

I wonder if this strain has the same probabillity of infection via incidence of contact as the other strains? The risk of becoming infected by a single sexual encounter with an infected person is only 1 in 50 to 100 among Americans and 1 in 25 to 50 among Africans. If the probability of infection / contact is higher than the other strains than the number of people infected might not be lowered!

	14-02-2005 00:03									#26
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call me evil if you will.

I'm losing sympathy for this disease. I read about many unprotected sex partners and drug use.

Irresponsible behaviour.

	14-02-2005 00:03									#27
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Im starting to wonder if this is true and how it will affect those of us who work in the enviroment were they can be stuck with a needle by a person that has this new strain.

	14-02-2005 00:06									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Vesayen A news story on my local radio said the New York health department found two men with a form of aids that mutated from HIV to full blown aids in 3 months... it can take 10 years. I've been unable to find anything about this online.... if this is true... OY. Anyone got a link to a "legitamite" news source with this info?

here's a link, I don't know how legitimate they are. but here you go.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?...id=azBO_AumTJhs

	14-02-2005 00:15									#29
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Only thing I can really add is the fact that if the virus dont kill these people the drugs will. 2 years ago working as a scrub nurse I got stabbed in the hand with a knife blade and the patient had hiv and hep b I took the drugs for 2 weeks and they made me sicker then anything i had ever felt. Since then i have undergone these tests every 3 months to make sure that i am not infected so far everything has been negative. Maybe time for me to call OSHA to check on this new strand.

	14-02-2005 00:19									#30
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how hard is it to use a ****ing condom?

It's reasons like this why this disease spreads and becomes worse.