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embalmer42
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The Great State Of Insanity
Jan 2000
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Originally posted by Heresson
The third prophesy was already revealed, though some think the church has not revealed it whole, or did not tell the truth etc |
What was the third prophesy?
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asleepathewheel
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listening too long to one song
Mar 2002
time: 00:24
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the assassination attempt on the pope in 81.
least thats what the vat says it means.
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Jon Miller
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Originally posted by Ted Striker
"How I warned and warned that satan would enter into the highest realms of the hierarchy in Rome. The Third Secret, My child, is that satan would enter into My Son's Church." - Our Lady of the Roses, May 13, 1978
It sounds like some kind of Roman Catholic infighting or some crap happened. |
goes along with adventist interpretation of revelations
JM
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Immortal Wombat
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in perpetuity
Dec 2000
time: 05:24
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a Bishop dressed in White 'we had the impression that it was the Holy Father'. Other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark; before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he met on his way; having reached the top of the mountain, on his knees at the foot of the big Cross he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, and in the same way there died one after another the other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious, and various lay people of different ranks and positions. Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two Angels each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God." |
Sounds like a prediction of the fall of the Church to me.
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Heresson
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of frogs
Jun 2000
time: 06:24
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quote:
Originally posted by JohnT
Wow! They predicted another European war? Whoda thunk it, given their peaceful history!
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Not predicted, but informed about, not they, but Mary.
And not a war, but another world war, and there's just been one and it was not even finished.
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They predicted the expansion of Communism? An either/or question, and they got it right? Amazing!
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At this time, the revolution in Russia was just starting, and it was not obvious that it will win, not to mention that it will spread its ideology through the world.
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They predicted another pope named Pius? An astounding guess, given the 10 Pius's that preceeded Pius XI.
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As well as many other names, which You seem to forget.
there were over twice as many Johns, for example.
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And... get this... they even had the must-be-from-God foresight to state that the war that was currently being waged (WW1) - would end. Gasp! |
it's not " the prophesies are true, so it's a miracle".
It was a miracle, and prophesies were by-product of it.
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JohnT
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Capitalist
Mar 1999
time: 00:24
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Which is ... the kids didn't even reveal what the prophesies were until 1940. Here's a general rule about prophesy: Predicting things things that have already happened dramatically heightens the odds of success!
http://paranormal.about.com/library...y/aa070300a.htm
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The "miracle at Fatima" is arguably the most well-known apparition of the Blessed Mother. Her appearance to three shepherd children in Portugal in 1917 was, according to many witnesses, accompanied by several unexplained events, including a shared vision of the sun dancing and moving about erratically in the sky.
During her many appearances to the children, "Our Lady" bestowed upon them three prophecies. The first two were disclosed by Lucia dos Santos, the eldest of the three children, after she wrote them down in the early 1940s, but the third and final prophecy was not to be revealed until 1960. Well, 1960 came and went, and the third prophecy was not revealed because the Vatican said the world was not quite ready for it. This reluctance to disclose the secret lead to speculation among the faithful that it contained information about our future that was so horrific that the Pope dared not reveal it. Perhaps it foretold a nuclear war... or the end of the world.
The First Prophecy
In the first prophecy, the children were shown a terrifying vision of Hell and were told that's "where the souls of poor sinners go." Then they were told that the world war then taking place - what we now call World War I - would soon end. "The war is going to end," Lucia quoted the Blessed Mother as saying, "but if people do not cease offending God, a worse one will break out during the reign of Pius XI. When you see a night illumined by an unknown light, know that this is the great sign given to you by God that He is about to punish the world for its crimes, by means of war, famine and persecutions of the Church and of the Holy Father."
Did this prophecy come true? World War I did indeed end and was followed by a worse war, World War II. But remember that Lucia revealed this prophecy in writing during 1940 - after the Second World War had already begun. Also, it's interesting that Pius XI is actually named in the prophecy. When the apparition of Our Lady allegedly made the prophecy in 1917, Benedict XV was Pope. Pius XI became Pope in 1922. So either Our Lady also predicted the name of the future Pope, who reigned until 1939, or Lucia did some prophecy fulfilling of her own.
What about the sign of "a night illuminated by an unknown light" before the outbreak of war? According to Fatima Prophecies, "on January 25, 1938, a remarkable display of aurora borealis was visible across Europe, the year before World War II began." The Secrets of Fatima elaborates: "This aurora appeared as far south as Galicia, Spain, where Sister Lucy was then cloistered, and she, the only survivor of the three Fatima shepherds, recognized it immediately as the sign. Visible even to Pius XI in Rome, the unprecedented aurora was accompanied by a ‘crackling' sound, possibly attributable to discharges of atmospheric energy. Indeed, in many areas of Europe, panic broke out, as the populace concluded that the world was on fire and that the End had come." This display of northern lights might have illuminated the night in some spectacular fashion, but even in 1917 the aurora borealis was hardly an "unknown light." Also, again, Lucia revealed this prophecy after the fact. |
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