16-02-2005 21:14									#61
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More outrageously proportioned female characters? give it an 18 rateing(DVD only?) and away you go?
You could also give MRT144 a role in it(he needs a job) with his girlfriend

	16-02-2005 21:16									#62
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Smut Trek - To boldly go where every man has gone before

	16-02-2005 22:29									#63
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Stop them being utter wusses sometimes. One that had me shouting was when they had devised a way to destroy the Borg by planting a particular impossible image into the mind of a drone they had captured and then send it back, eliminating the largest threat to the Federation. But no, they got all f**king moralistic and prime directive and didn't. Like hell you would! Watch 'em collapse, that's what any sensible officer would have done.

	16-02-2005 22:38									#64
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i second giving JMS a shot with it.

enterprise the best trek ever? wrong. it's an abomination, worse even to the franchise than phantom menace was to star wars.

	16-02-2005 22:39									#65
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No, it was quite good recently

	16-02-2005 22:41									#66
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They should have more graphic interspecies sex.

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T'Pol

	16-02-2005 23:17									#68
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quote: Originally posted by ravagon They should take a much closer look at DS9 and figure out exactly what they got right there. By which I mean post season 2 of course, after Babylon 5 started to have an influence - an actual story arc rather than the same tired old 'new planet each week' syndrome, and saw DS9 adapt accordingly.

I hated DS9

JM

	16-02-2005 23:45									#69
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quote: Also it would be boring to have that outside-view of some great space battle, but nothing is to be heard... Real Physics suck

Do it like B5 did. If I recall correctly, when you were watching a battle from outside, there were sounds in space. But when you were in a cockpit of a Starfury, only thing that could be heard were engine, computers and dialog. Ads a bit of realism.

quote: They should have more graphic interspecies sex.

	17-02-2005 00:24									#70
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retire

	17-02-2005 01:17									#71
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Blow up Earth and see the humans spread across the galaxy in a murderous rage

	17-02-2005 01:33									#72
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you'd be able to hear your own weapons and anything that hit your hull, just not from outer space. I suppose that I will have to make an allowance for ftl, but other then that they really need to stop mangling physics, or atleast mangle it in a cool way like mass drivers, stellar converters, and black hole generators.

	17-02-2005 01:42									#73
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Star Trek: Master of Orion Syndicate?

	17-02-2005 01:50									#74
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I just had an idea (I doubt it's been mentioned in this thread- I admit I haven't read it)

This would require killing George Lucas though.

Merge Star Trek and Star Wars. People are always fighting over which is better. So why not merge them into one tv show? Who wouldn't want to see Captain Picard taking on Darth Vadar?

	17-02-2005 02:04									#75
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed i second giving JMS a shot with it.

JMS himself wants badly to have a stab at ST. Personally, I think that's what is needed at this time. Dump Berman and crew and return to Gene's original vision.

	17-02-2005 02:13									#76
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	17-02-2005 02:15									#77
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quote: JMS himself wants badly to have a stab at ST. Personally, I think that's what is needed at this time. Dump Berman and crew and return to Gene's original vision.

yeah, it's old news (well, not that old, but from late last year...)...

it'd be much better than the little **** called "enterprise" and would probably rejuvenate the series.

seriously? imagine b5 with better production resources, bigger budget, stronger casting...

	17-02-2005 02:16									#78
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I stopped watching ST somewhere around Voyager season 3 when it was clear that the producers completely lost touch with what ST was about. Some more fixes off the top of my head:

- No more holodeck
- I don't ever want to hear the word "tacyon" again.
- How about some non-bipedal aliens for a change?
- Story arcs please.
- Revamp the entire ship. It looks essential the same as the original series. At least install some seatbelts forcrissakes.
- Toilets. Do they have them or not? I wanna know!
- Oh, and more hot chicks.

	17-02-2005 02:55									#79
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Seatbelts? They have inertial dampeners for goodness sake

	17-02-2005 03:00									#80
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They could make it the anti-Trek: Blake's 7

code:
STAR TREK                               BLAKES 7

 1. The triumph of morality.             1. The triumph of amorality.
 2. The Federation is good.              2. The Federation is evil.
 3. The Federation is an instrument of   3. The Federation is a fascist
    democracy and free speech.              military dictatorship.
 4. Everyone on the ship gets along.     4. Don't turn your back.
 5. Reliable friends.                    5. Betrayal.
 6. Goal: "to explore strange new        6. Goal: to survive, destroy the
    worlds & civilizations", assist         Federation and make a fast
    Federation colonies and promote         buck whenever possible.
    Federation growth.
 7. The basic crew don't die; in fact,   7. The basic crew dies, disappears,
    they come back from the dead.           and finds better things to do.
 8. The Captain has a receding           8. The Captain has a perm.
    hairline or no hair.
 9. The heroes chase things.             9. The heroes are chased.
10. Electric shavers that can stun.     10. Cattle prods that kill.
11. A new planet every episode.         11. A new plot every episode.
12. Special effects.                    12.
13. When nothing else works, the        13. When nothing else works, the
    Captain will try deception.             crew will try a little truth.
14. Disposable extras.                  14. Disposable regulars.
15. The Boy Scout mentality.            15. Niccolo Machiavelli.
16. Occasional sarcasm.                 16. Occasional straight dialogue.
17. Stand by your friends.              17. Stand behind your friends.
18. Love will save the day.             18. Love = carelessness = death.
19. Choosing between good and evil.     19. Choosing the lesser of two evils.
20. Mind-meld.                          20. Telepathy.
21. Transporters are commonplace.       21. Transporters are amazing.
22. Helpless females.                   22. Ball-busting females.
23. An alien crew member.               23. An alien crew member.
24. Computer personality problems.      24. Computer personality problems.
25. Justifying pacifism.                25. Justifying your right to live.

	17-02-2005 05:38									#81
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I was hop;ing that when DS9 ended that they would make a series where DS9 ended with the remaining characters going off to their new posts. The chief and the doctor were supposedly going back to Star Fleet Academy. They could have made a good series based around Star Fleet Academy following a few cadets in the early years of their careers, while the chief and the doctor were occassionally assigned to their old assignments as undercover agents infiltrating the Orion gangs and foiling area 31. They also might have occassionally brought Quark and Nog back in episodes involving the reformed Ferengi regimes strugle to change the way business is done by the Ferengi.

	17-02-2005 07:47									#82
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quote: Originally posted by ravagon B5 wasn't just a special effects extravaganza though - season 1 in particular didn't have large scale fleet engagements but did have many very very good episodes that hinted at what was to come - 'Midnight on the firing line' (No really big fleets fighting it out but it did show off the Narn war machine and introduce the Narn-Centauri feud in a major way), 'Mindwar' (that closing scene with nothing more than an ant on a flower still gives me chills), 'The coming of shadows', 'A voice in the wilderness' (well, this did have a few FX thrown in but very low-grade by the later seasons standards) were huge episodes. JMS just managed to hit on a near-perfect blend of story-telling, mysticism and FX that produced one of the best sagas of all time.

My favourite B5 episode was where they actually used that defence grid. Bring it on baby....

	17-02-2005 07:52									#83
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Get rid of holodeck and other methods used to avoid creating a real plot. Using time travel for this reason works only when you have Kirk, Spock and McCoy; for everyone else, it sucks.

Do not turn Star Trek into a bland, BOOM BAM EXPLOSION action series. Create plots reminiscent of the theme of TOS, ones that exclude waste-of-space characters such as Neelix. I'm sure there are some good Star Trek Phase II plots lying around.

Actually, just put Star Trek TOS on the air, not just on Sci Fi. Maybe people need to remember that there was a time Star Trek was a worthwhile franchise, before a new movie/series is started.

	17-02-2005 08:11									#84
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I'm fairly happy with Star Trek the way it is.

The juvenlie, comic book story lines can get a bit monotonous, but the sci-fi atmosphere, along with the good looking women on display is enough to sustain my devotion.

What needs to be changed is the expectations of morons. All these fools in society and at this site, who moan and whinge about Star Trek: they can go and jump head first into a tree mulcher, please. They are the ****ers who brought down Enterprise.

Star Trek could do with less wild west storylines though.

	17-02-2005 08:40									#85
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Oh, and one rule of thumb any star trek show should take:

No children! Especially smart children saving the day.

	17-02-2005 08:43									#86
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So true.

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quote: Originally posted by Verto Get rid of holodeck and other methods used to avoid creating a real plot. Using time travel for this reason works only when you have Kirk, Spock and McCoy; for everyone else, it sucks. Do not turn Star Trek into a bland, BOOM BAM EXPLOSION action series. Create plots reminiscent of the theme of TOS, ones that exclude waste-of-space characters such as Neelix. I'm sure there are some good Star Trek Phase II plots lying around. Actually, just put Star Trek TOS on the air, not just on Sci Fi. Maybe people need to remember that there was a time Star Trek was a worthwhile franchise, before a new movie/series is started.

:d

JM

	17-02-2005 23:04									#88
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quote: Originally posted by Sikander As in, "I thought he had three legs, but it turns out the big one is a sexual organ."?

Well, I was also thinking about job opportunities for sideshow performers.

	17-02-2005 23:05									#89
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One thing I'd do to improve Star Trek is to avoid it's use of aliens to represent negative human traits.

Examples; boors Vulcans, violence Kilngons, thieving Ferrengi, etc etc etc etc.

	17-02-2005 23:26									#90
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Seatbelts? They have inertial dampeners for goodness sake

Yeah, but Star Fleet must have bought them all at the dollar store or something. The darn things are always going off line so we still get those cheesy shake-the-camera shots every time the ship takes a hit.