16-02-2005 18:47									#1
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Hey, if you close a thread because of too many posts, aren't you obligated to open a new one with a link?

	17-02-2005 00:20									#2
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although talk really dies down after the season, but post all major cuts and trades here.

We were discussing Jeff Garcia being cut and Drew Bledsoe being available.

discuss.

	17-02-2005 01:04									#3
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Garcia and Bledsoe are still better than the starting QBs of at least a couple of teams. They just aren't good enough to justify their current contracts.

	17-02-2005 01:06									#4
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Can the Niners have Garcia back?

Lot of front office moves with the niners... that's all I've seen do far.

	17-02-2005 01:07									#5
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The Niners choices have been curious. I have more business experience than that kid they hired to do contracts.

	17-02-2005 01:08									#6
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Yeah, I saw his picture and was all WTF!

I wonder if I can apply for the coaching position?

	17-02-2005 01:33									#7
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My guesses:

Garcia will end up in Detriot. Mariucchi and Garcia have been successful together in the past, and I don't think Mooch is too pleased with Harrington. I bet Garcia is signed with the Lions and is starting for them by week 6.

Bledsoe might end up in Dallas with Parcells, the man who drafted him. I'm less sure about this than Garcia in Detroit, but it makes sense, especially if Testaverde retires. If not, then I see Bledsoe as the #2 somewhere (Miami? Tampa?)

	17-02-2005 02:33									#8
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I cant want bledsoe with dallas. nnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooo. Testeverde has to go but we need a real QB.

	20-02-2005 22:00									#9
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The Titans are about to begin cutting a good chunk of their remaining talent in order to go 0-16 next season fit under the salary cap.

http://www.tennessean.com/sports/ti...ent_ID=65903500

I can't believe they're getting rid of Mason, who's probably one of the most talented players remaining on the team. He was only going to make about five million for next year... Heck, I'd rather have Mason than McNair.

The other five cuts are definitely understandable, though.

When you go 5-11 and have no really good players on your team, it's hard to believe that you can be $27m over the cap... it's like the ownership just doesn't know how to make a well-structured contract.

	20-02-2005 23:37									#10
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In addition to that Tank Williams is suspended for the year.

	20-02-2005 23:55									#11
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I think Dallas will be REALLY well served to get Drew Bledsoe, at least for a couple years. He's not a bad QB, and he had his best years for Parcells. Also, as shown in New England, he'll keep his mouth shut if replaced by the back-up. He was a class act in that situation and that's the type of player needed in Dallas if they are grooming Drew Henson.

	21-02-2005 00:51									#12
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Except that he is as big a sitting duck as Testeverde is. Besides, most reports say he doesn't like Parcells.

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	21-02-2005 01:07									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Wycoff Bledsoe might end up in Dallas with Parcells, the man who drafted him. I'm less sure about this than Garcia in Detroit, but it makes sense, especially if Testaverde retires. If not, then I see Bledsoe as the #2 somewhere (Miami? Tampa?)

My guess is Bledsoe won't go to Miami: no offensive line and no running game means he'd be the focus of every defensive scheme, just like the 'Phins QB's were last season. It was like shooting fish in a barrel....

Hopefully Saban can get things turned around in 2 seasons, maybe 3. Draft or trade for an offensive line this year, then get the QB and RB the following season after the O-line has had time to gel.



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	21-02-2005 01:15									#14
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any word on Ricky?

doesn't he still have a lot of money to pay off?

	21-02-2005 01:29									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident any word on Ricky? doesn't he still have a lot of money to pay off?

Ricky's not coming back (at least to Miami). As far as the money is concerned: he's using the legal system to avoid having to pay back the money for as long as possible....

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	21-02-2005 02:25									#16
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The Rams have really bad salary cap problems too. I wish they would get rid of Orlando Pace. Can someone tell me how he is worth the $8M they will end up paying him next year when the offensive line as a whole sucks?

	22-02-2005 03:56									#17
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forget Bledsoe and Garcia; a younger (and better) QB is on the market in Kurt Warner.

	22-02-2005 03:59									#18
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Did you say YOUNGER is a reason to pick up Warner?

Warner is older than Bledsoe by a year. And Garcia is older than Warner by a year. Age ain't a reason to pick up Warner.

	22-02-2005 04:04									#19
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he just seems younger since he hasn't been in the NFL long. But he's way old.

I'd recruit Ryan Leaf over Warner.

	22-02-2005 04:11									#20
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i forgot Warner had that stint in NFL Europe before coming to the league in 98...

still, all this talk about Garcia and Bledsoe... no one thinks Warner can still start somewhere?

	22-02-2005 04:16									#21
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Garcia is a mobile QB which seems to be in fashion in league and both San Fran and Mooch like what they see in him. Bledsoe had some GREAT years in the late 90s. He's actually 9th (IIRC) in the all time passers list in yardage.

Warner, everyone is trying to found out what went wrong in St. Louis and I don't think they know. They kind of know what is wrong with Bledsoe and Garcia.

	22-02-2005 04:37									#22
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it was that season that he broke his hand. he was out for most of that season then out for most of the next. was on injured reserve, right? then Marc Bulger came along and eclipsed him.

	22-02-2005 06:49									#23
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Yeah, but Warner has a better arm. It's just messed up what happened in St. Louis. The things with Warner is that he might have taken too many to the head. He got that concussion and he was never really as sharp mentally.

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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer i forgot Warner had that stint in NFL Europe before coming to the league in 98... still, all this talk about Garcia and Bledsoe... no one thinks Warner can still start somewhere?

Warner should have been the starter for the Giants the whole season - or at least until they had little to no chance for the playoffs.

Who replaces their starting quarterback with an untested rookie when you are in a playoff race and only one game out of the division lead? I know! The New York Giants. The Giants were either 5-1 or 5-2 when they pulled Warner. Teams that were 8-8 were able to get in the playoffs in the NFC.

	22-02-2005 10:11									#25
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I was hoping we could get somebody like drew brees. For dallas that is

	22-02-2005 10:28									#26
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Dream on . San Diego will Franchise him until the cows come home!

	22-02-2005 10:33									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Dream on . San Diego will Franchise him until the cows come home!

One can dream i guess I know this especially since he kicked a** at the pro bowl games this weekend. Trent Green would be good too.

	22-02-2005 10:53									#28
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Brees was great in the skills challenge, but didn't kick ass at the pro-bowl. The two best QBs at the pro-bowl were Peyton Manning (of course) and Mike Vick. Brees was behind those two by a decent amount, only tossing two passes in the game.

	22-02-2005 10:58									#29
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I should have mentioned The skills challenge was what i was talking about but he also had almost a perfect year last year. manning is good cant say much bout vick.

	22-02-2005 11:00									#30
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Vick was good in the Pro Bowl?

Big Deal.

Hi, Imran!

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