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I'm in no real spot to judge your decisions as a turn player, being that my contributions to the team have been minimal.....but why oh why didn't you use a crawler instead of an AA to prototype plasma?

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Yep, you're right, after my last post I was also thinking about that. You know, there was quite a confusion that turn and I definitely don't have the time CT has to think about it..

Probably I should've made a "Plan for 216?" thread, but didn't have time to even make that idea..

But look at the bright side - if we ever got SFF or even D:AP we'll have 1 more crawler to use on proto.

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BTW WTF is going on?!?

Are we going to get SFF from Morgan and EnvEco from DA at last?

That way we could get D:AP in a couple of turns!

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I haven't heard back from DAs ever, so I may send them another PM, try and get their attention. Morgan is waiting for word back on this, so I'll mention that AA was critical for proper defense...

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Originally posted by AndiD
SFF... and more?

Lord Chaos,

the Corporation will send you Synthetic Fossil Fuels this turn to help against the Spartan invasion.

How about an instant cooperation in technology research? We would give you additionally Environmental Economics so that you can start researching something new the next turn and finish it in three years.

The Corporation would suggest that this tech would be Neural Grafting (working towards MMI and Bio-Engineering), which requires a gift of Secrets of the Human Brain, too.

What do you think? How does SFF, EE and SotHB sound?

The Corporation will resume their own tech research as soon as there are enough defending jets and perimeter defenses built.

On behalf of the Corporation
SOO AndiD

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who could ask for anything more

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We want D:AP

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quote:
Originally posted by binTravkin
Yep, you're right, after my last post I was also thinking about that. You know, there was quite a confusion that turn and I definitely don't have the time CT has to think about it..

Probably I should've made a "Plan for 216?" thread, but didn't have time to even make that idea..

But look at the bright side - if we ever got SFF or even D:AP we'll have 1 more crawler to use on proto.


Yea, $h!t happens, I'm not worried about it. Like I said, I'm on shakey ground as is since I can'tplay a turn anyaway.

PS: I am for the Morgan offer, I can't see why we would possibly want to turn it down?

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We want D:AP


Of course we do, and it would be quite stupid for the Morganites not to give it to us if nothing else but to tie up Spartan resources. But also wouldn't be surprised if they are feeling back on their feet once they get it and decide not to share. But if they don't they'll only be cutting their own necks', and all we should do is remind them of that.

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quote:

Originally posted by Mead:
We can send DAP and EE to you this turn.

Do you accept them in return for your next tech?

Mead

cc: Ouro_827
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Yes, we accept!

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You should tell them Progenitor Psych is our up coming tech (or some equally worthless one), just to see their reaction.

Doc:AP+EE = PP

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Hmm.. Are you fiddling with the predictor right now?
Could you get all the choices listed here?

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Originally posted by paramir
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Please get this message to your diplomat

The Spartans have the ability to make their units go further, with there high moral, now not only do they have but they have better units as well.
That is why it is IMPARATIVE that we enter in a tech leapfrogging agreement with you and the DA, I hope you can see the importance of this agreement.
Paramir

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I see the importance and agree.

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I have 2175 mostly played. Are we sending any techs anywhere this turn? I'll be awake again in some 9 hours.

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Just curious; did you move a CP towards the center of the Ruins?

Regarding tech trades, I'm not clear on where we stand either. I do agree that we should joint with the Angels and Morgan in a leapfrog agreement.

I eventually want to deal out some payback to Sparta. Not in the foreseeable future, but perhaps in the midterm. Tech leapfrogging would be the way to enable that.

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I did not move a colony pod to the center of the Ruins, but it's a possibility. The spot I had in mind for that colony pod is the sensor adjacent to the sea a bit north of the Ruins, but all that's up for debate.

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quote:
Are we sending any techs anywhere this turn?


I think I should get my nose into diplomacy.
Will overlook the situation until the next turn.

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Dear Gaians

Would you be interested in researching Bio-Enginering for us and in exchange we would give you Intelectual Integrity now allowing you to have that tech now.

We must be carefull with trades due to the fact the Spartans have Plan Data.

Forester
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My vote is Yeah.
Gimme some yours too, so I can answer it.

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Actually depends a bit on the fact would they let us build LV

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Morganites offer us Bio-Engineering in return for Neural Grafting last turn. Sounds like a good deal to me, as clean formers are very important. This means if the Angels also get Bio-Engineering, the Spartans get it for free, though.

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I didn't open the turn and look into this in detail but on the face of it I think we should accept the deal and not worry too much about who, when, and if someone else benefits. Clean reactors are worth a little trouble. Do you have any idea how much NG helps Morgan towards the good SPs? Does anyone have MMI yet? Are we in line to research it next? Just some questions to consider...I'll defer to your judgement.

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The Angels have MMI and have built the Cyborg Factory. I don't think Neural Grafting gives the Morganites much of a leg up on important SPs. I'm not sure where we're headed with our research; we have 2 turns left until Intellectual Integrity, though it could be shaved to a single turn.

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In that case I see almost no down side to making the trade. We should check MM's research database for our next availabale tech both with and without BioEng. If need be we can give Morgan NG now and wait for BioEng, if that helps our next beeline.

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So, we're agreed on trade:

IntInt from Morgan
BioEng to Morgan

?

CT, could you check it in sheet (will BioEng be available next)?

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Huh, just read we have BioEng already..

So if we had IntInt, what could we redirect?
(apart from MMI which we could trade for)

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quote: originally posted by AndiD

ACDG3 Diplomacy

Greetings Lord Chaos,

from what I could read from forum messages and game info I understand you and the Angels are now at a state of Vendetta with Sparta.

As pactmates, the Corporation will support your quest against Sparta - however: We are currently unable to mount an offensive force due to several reasons:

- Lack of state-of-the-art in offensive technology
- Dire need of infrastructure builds (like in tech, we are a decade behind, if not more)
- Need of a decent defensive force in case Yang or Sparta comes calling
- Infiltration from Sparta - they would see immediately what we are gonna do


Since we were not informed in advance, we had not time to give input, feedback or start own preparations for the new state of geopolitics.

You seem to have made an impression on Sparta though, last year they came asking for a Treaty. We agreed, again due to several reasons:

- We will benefit more than Sparta due to our commerce rating
- Our current income is reserved for infrastructure builds for the next couple of years, the extra energy income from the treaty will be devoted to unit building and upgrading
- The extra income will also help our lagging research abilities (NetNodes and RHs will be constructed as soon as we finish our growth infrastructure)
- We will not trade any technology with Sparta and protect our only advantage: Bio-Engineering.

Our offer for technology cooperation is still open - it worked well with Bio-Engineering and it may work well for the future - like we offered Polymorphic Software to you this turn. If there is anything more we can do, just ask.

Please pass on the relevant parts of this info to the Angels (= our Treaty with Sparta does not mean taking sides!).

On behalf of the Corporation
AndiD

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(= our Treaty with Sparta does not mean taking sides!)


I think this is the most important part of this message.

 
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