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Hercules is offline Hercules
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in Tir Na Og
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Exactly

Hercules is offline Hercules
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OK I need to go get new avatar. Just being deaded.

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Sent.

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I think smiley was implying you can do the math yourself.

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Ah. In that case, yes, if I happen to be trying to compare production across all the empires at a glance.

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Our revolutionary collective's entirely peaceful orders have been sent.

GeoModder is offline GeoModder
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Smiley, can you please give me the deadline for orders this round? Second time I ask now.

Edit: never mind, sent

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6/17.

Deadline is Tuesday evening Pacific time.

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Sent.

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My requests for actions during the next turn were submitted to my fellow friends.

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Orders sent.

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Orders Sent.

Also can someone fill me in about this Eventis thing?

-Jam

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http://eventis.ssxh.net/forums/index.php

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s3|/|7

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Hercules is offline Hercules
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Orders sent

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Sent.

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Chapter 2.8
Let There be Lazor


quote:

Here is something to think about

Whether it's a particle or a wave doesn't matter when you're getting fried


While all sorts of different weapons were being devised in alchemists' and mad scientists' laboratories in past years, gradually the Lazor has regained its old popularity. Known by many names, from "Deathray" to "Heatray" to "Artificial Lightning" to "Beam of Doom", this nifty electrical device has leaped from the realm of lectures to the battlefield.

Around two-fifths of all ships in service now mount Lazors. The weapon's real popularity is higher, though, as their short-range use leads to higher casualties. Three out of every four casualties in the last few conflicts were aboard Lazor ships.

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15/17
Waiting for Ljube and Paddy. They have 17 hours.


To Polly Siffan and Cosmos Stardust- happy Galactic Women's Day!

GeoModder is offline GeoModder
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I think it's really time that Fighters and Torpedos get an upgrading tactic as well as to be more competitive with those blasted Lazors.

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Agreed. However, I think we should introduce that particular change next game.

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Disagreed. Torpedoes and fighters are fine.

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If they are fine, then people would build them at the same rate as other weapon types. Lasers, for instance.

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Lasers are intended to be the "main" weapons of GO. Torpedoes are the "counter-weapon" and Fighters are the "counter-counter-weapon" rather like modern-era naval warfare, where battleships are covered in guns, but are vunerable to torpedoes launched by subs, which are spotted and located by helicopters and planes.

-Jam

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If they are fine, then people would build them at the same rate as other weapon types. Lasers, for instance.


Those who build lasers only are rapidly disappearing.

GeoModder is offline GeoModder
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Getting Torpedo'd you mean?

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Really? I saw some pretty big laser blasts.

And Jamski: While that is true, subs are somewhat harder to hit than a battleship. Not so the torpedo battleship compared to the laser battleship.

I think part of the problem is that closed-in, lasers get a damage doubling whereas fighters and torpedoes have no similar tactic.

GeoModder is offline GeoModder
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Lasers have an offensive tactic, while torps -and fighter effectiviness depends on the 'mistake' of an opponents' formation.

MORON is offline MORON
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I think part of the problem is that closed-in, lasers get a damage doubling whereas fighters and torpedoes have no similar tactic.

it is called back off.

In anycase, while all lasers may be most "powerful", it can be countered. All lasers simply ensures that numerical superiority can force a win.

Counter to all lasers:
50 torpedo/50 fighter

something like
MTT LFF back off would work very well against lasers. Lets say 100laser with MLL TFF

The laser use have to use close in to have a chance-this is given.

If the laser user uses close in, spread out, it would do 50% casualies, killing all torpeods, while losing 2/3 of the fleet on round one. while if the battle is "to the death" lasers would win, the pure kill ratio favors torpedo-fighter combo.

If the laser user uses close in, normal varients with the same oob, it would lose badly, causing no damage whatsoever.

If the laser user uses a second attack OOB, say TFF MLL, close in normal, it would merely result in break even turn one against the same F/T combo OOB fleet.

In other words, a laser user really don't want to defend against a F/T fleet, since defender usually don't want to use "fight to the death" for obvious reason, while not using it allows those damned F/T players to steal bases.

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Tactics (Close/back spread/bunch) can boost lasers 4 times, while fighters and torpedos are limited to a 2x boost. An opponent expecting lasers will back off, making it a 1x factor. If they know your fleet is heavy on fighters or torpedoes, they can spread or bunch, and halve it.

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The thing with fighters and torpedos is that they are useless by themselves. They need to be mixed, ideally 50/50.

With a 50/50 mix, both spread/bunch are dangerous as both allows for critical hits at 4x modifier as the laser user has to fill the slots.

After all, the laser user can't go for MLL MLL , but has to put in F and T while he has none.

The point with the F/T combo isn't raw strength, but forcing a OOB "misguess" allowing for critical hits.

For example: MLL FFT, close in, spread out, against MTT FLF would have the last F attack at x4 factor....

A pure laser user do need the spread out however, since without it the MTT can shut off the laser player's attack completely.

Thankfully, most players haven't realized the power of "all back off" fleets yet....

 
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