10-03-2005 07:18									#451
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Well, as long as it is only possible to use every few turns under the stay home condition it's far from sure that this would be an issue. Like the anti-spy agency, the opportunity is spent for the next few non-attacking turns if you lay in ambush for nothing.

	10-03-2005 07:20									#452
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Allied defense would strengthen rather than weaken alliances. The current setup keeps it an offense-oriented game, rather than a 30-turn crawl.

	10-03-2005 07:48									#454
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley Allied defense would strengthen rather than weaken alliances. The current setup keeps it an offense-oriented game, rather than a 30-turn crawl.

Perhaps.

I definitely second the vote for 10% to the first OOB. It is more realistic, after all. Your fleet sends the first round of ships - and they take heavy casualties. Extra element of strategy and all that...

	10-03-2005 07:59									#455
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My orders are sent as well, BTW.

	10-03-2005 08:58									#456
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Sent, methinks.

	10-03-2005 12:28									#457
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Orders recieved, I'll read 'em tomorrow. I've got about half of em right now.

	10-03-2005 16:26									#458
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I propose:
Ambush:
type: special orders
effect: all allied attacks are broken up into individual attacks, count as a M command before first round of combat. applies to all attackers. (this still allow another M command in the normal OOB, but the effects of MM don't stack)

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	10-03-2005 17:28									#459
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We don't want to encourage people to defend, do we? We want CARNAGE

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	10-03-2005 18:20									#460
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Yes, but those inflicting the carnage must be at risk as well.

A strictly, limited, and one-Overlord defensive ambush makes things more interesting throughout the game. Now an agressive alliance of Overlords can take other Overlords almost at will with no risk of losing. And even if ones homebases are taken with this tactic, his allies are offen too willing giving a homebase next round, thus minimizing the risk.

	10-03-2005 19:14									#461
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Ambush, if introduced, should be a special order which uses one spy.

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	10-03-2005 19:19									#462
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Why?

	10-03-2005 20:28									#463
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Maybe just make it a normal order that uses spies.....

	10-03-2005 20:31									#464
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If it's normal order then it could be used with some other special order which could lead to the endless ambush-spy loop or ambush-spy deadlock.

Example: Ambush my opponents and train another spy.

	10-03-2005 22:01									#465
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If ambush can't be used every (defensive) turn then it can't go in an infinite loop in combination with a spy.

	10-03-2005 22:15									#466
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Orders are in.

	10-03-2005 22:18									#467
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I feel ambush is adding unneccessary complexity, we already have this nifty thing called a shield.

	11-03-2005 00:53									#468
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Let's get naughty stuff in then as well.

	11-03-2005 04:57									#469
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Orders sent.

And if you can tell in advance whether someone can use ambush or not, there's not much point in having ambush at all, now is there?

	11-03-2005 05:33									#470
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I'm not convinced we need ambush, but it should have a balancing penalty to lone attacks if we add it. Basically, if you are set to defend against an alliance, but one nation's unified force shows up instead, your attacks should have a 0.5x modifier or something. That way you don't need to worry about how many ambush orders we need to allow, and it can be employed strategically as part of the OoB.

	11-03-2005 05:49									#471
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8/16

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	11-03-2005 07:40									#472
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Hurry up little peoples. I want to see how many people get PWND against my shield this round.

This may or may not be a bluff.

	11-03-2005 15:22									#473
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opps - Orders sent

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Sent

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Orders sent.

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11/16

The rest have 24 hours to send in orders:
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	12-03-2005 09:26									#477
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Orders, dammit!

	13-03-2005 00:10									#479
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Just LN and Jonny now.

They have 8 hours.

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	13-03-2005 01:26									#480
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Why do I look so in the centre of things...