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Provost Harrison is offline Provost Harrison
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Let me present Exhibit A:

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http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archiv...cksonboys1.html

another article. The 2 brothers have inconsistant stories.

There is not case here. As much as it pains me to say this. Michael Jackson is innocent. Freak, yes. Molester, No (at least not in this case)


Inconsistencies are expected, however it does not discredit the merits of the case. No, Michael Jackson is not innocent. There is just too much evidence to prove otherwise. So no he isn't innocent.. not in any sense of the world.

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I think he's innocent in this case. And I hope I am not wrong.
I also hope He learns and stops sleeping with children in one bed. Not only is it strange by itself, but taking into account his current look, it can give them nightmares. Not that I do not feel sorry for his looks.

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Michael Jackson is completely innocent. Why? Cause he made Thriller man. Thriller...

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Here's some evidence, Giancarlo:

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Oct. 11, 2004 — Michael Jackson's defense team has said the mother of his alleged child molestation victim has made false claims and told the judge that she once accused her ex-husband of crimes that parallel some of the charges "The King of Pop" faces. ABC News has exclusively obtained police reports in which the alleged victim's mother details those accusations against her husband.

Jackson, 46, is accused of molesting a now-14-year-old boy who spent time at his Neverland ranch and is believed to be a cancer survivor who appeared last year in the British documentary Living With Michael Jackson. He has pleaded not guilty to 10 charges that include felony conspiracy with 28 overt acts involving child abduction, false imprisonment, and extortion. The conspiracy charge against Jackson refers to his alleged attempts through associates to quiet the alleged victim and his family.

The father of Jackson's alleged victim pleaded no contest to spousal abuse in 2001 and child cruelty in 2002 and has been barred from seeing his children. He and the alleged victim's mother have continued to battle over the issue as he lost a bid earlier this year to regain child visitation rights. In a police report filed in 2001 during their bitter divorce, the alleged victim's mother accused her husband of child molestation, telling police she saw him touch their daughter inappropriately when she was 3 or 4 years old.

In the same report, the daughter also accused the father of false imprisonment for allegedly locking her "inside his vehicle against her will." One report alleged that the father told his daughter that if she yelled he would kill Jackson's alleged victim (her brother) and the whole family. In the Jackson case, the alleged victim's younger brother has said one of Jackson's associates allegedly threatened to kill him and his family if he told anyone about the singer serving him and his siblings alcohol.

Irrelevant or Key Credibility Issue?

The father of Jackson's alleged victim was never convicted of the allegations made in the police report. His lawyer said the mother has fabricated the accusations.


http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/News/story?id=155033&page=1

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JACKSON JURY CAN HEAR ABOUT ACCUSER'S MOTHER'S ALLEGATION OF IMPROPER TOUCHING
Feb 25, 2005

SANTA MARIA, Calif. (AP) -- A victory of sorts for Michael Jackson's defense team.

The judge at his child molestation trial has ruled that evidence can be introduced about the accuser's mother's claim that she had been improperly touched by security guards at a local store.

The family of the 13-year-old accuser claimed in a lawsuit that they were beaten by guards and held against their will, and that the mother was groped, after Jackson's accuser left the store without paying for some clothing.

Superior Court Judge Rodney Melville said he will allow testimony as it pertains to the mother's credibility. But he won't allow the defense to refer to Jackson's accuser as a shoplifter.

Opening statements in Jackson's trial are scheduled on Monday.

(Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

AP-NY-02-25-05 1431EST


http://www.kpvi.com/index.cfm?page=...es.cfm&ID=24286

That last one netted them $152,000 in a settlement.

They've been bouncing around the celeb circuit for several years, and they smell like a pack of grifters to me.

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Never post with a fever.

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Talk about self referential.....

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Mad Monk, there is no way in hell this guy is innocent.

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Thriller!

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quote:
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Mad Monk, there is no way in hell this guy is innocent.


see above

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There is too much evidence showing Michael Jackson committed wrong doings. I just can't see any other way around it. I personally hope Jackson gets convicted and faces the maximum penalty. He may not get convicted on all ten counts, but he will get at least convicted on a few of them.

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Well who knows yet. Let us allow the US judicial system give a fair trial despite being in the glare of the media spotlight and reaching the only true and fair verdict...

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Well who knows yet. Let us allow the US judicial system give a fair trial despite being in the glare of the media spotlight and reaching the only true and fair verdict...



Well I'm just stating my own personal opinion on the man. I personally think he's sick mentally.. but he was aware of the wrong-doings he was committing.. but I'll let the courts take their own path. I just think Jackson's defense is really weak.

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Well we all know that the lights are on but no one's there but that is still a far cry from him being a nonce. Alas I doubt that the trial is going to be fair, hence my sarcastic remark.

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So what if he's crazy? Many geniuses are. That doesn't make him a kiddy-fiddler...

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Big thread, must be a bit of an echo in here

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You didn't call him a genius. That's unacceptable...

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Granted, he's had his moments, but that was a while ago now...

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If you consider 1968-1987 a "moment" then yes, I agree with you. It's ****ing sad to see what he's become...

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I think the freak is innocent to. The mom is just a money hungry *****.

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How would she get any money through criminal prosecution? First off, there is no way he's innocent. There is just too much evidence.

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We should just toss him out of a chopper, eh? No need for a trial...

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How would she get any money through criminal prosecution? First off, there is no way he's innocent. There is just too much evidence.


please tell me you are joking.

Here's the easiest way to figure this out. Kobe Bryant. You live in L.A., you should know about this case. The case was a fraud from the beginning. It was a setup for a civil case. And even though it never went to civil trial, it was settled. And I'm pretty sure she got some good money out of it.

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How would she get any money through criminal prosecution? First off, there is no way he's innocent. There is just too much evidence.

All the crimminal trial does is lead to the woman being able to file a civil suit. Oh wait I still think O J was Innocent of the killings he was said to do. I dont believe he might not have ordered them. But the old man I dont think committed them.

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just cuz the mom lied before it doesnt mean that shes wrong this time. even the boy who cried wolf was right once and the town ignored it and it cost them

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it's good to take legal advice from fairy tales

note: I originally thought there was a good chance he was guilty, but after the demonstration of "evidence" in this trial, it's obvious they have no case.

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I believe she is lying and getting all her kids to lie to. After all it has been stated by the mom the micheal wanted her and her kids out of his house before she filed charges .

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please tell me you are joking.

Here's the easiest way to figure this out. Kobe Bryant. You live in L.A., you should know about this case. The case was a fraud from the beginning. It was a setup for a civil case. And even though it never went to civil trial, it was settled. And I'm pretty sure she got some good money out of it.


I do know about this case. The case was a fraud? As far as Kobe Bryant is concerned.. I don't care. I did not see sufficient evidence in that case. But as I'm informed about this trial almost non-stop with the local news, I can say there is a lot of case. You can't go comparing the Kobe Bryant case with the Michael Jackson case. You are the one who should be joking.

The rest of you dolts who think Jackson is innocent. Give me a god damn break.

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And in case anyone doesn't remember, it is possible for kids to make up stories. Usually they have parental influence though.

There were a couple major cases in the 80's like this and made national headlines for those of us unfortunate enough to live in that decade. Some of our younger posters such as Fez might not have heard of them. I suggest looking them up.

As usual adults, do not give children enough credit for their intelligence and creativity.

 
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