08-03-2005 12:15									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident it's good to take legal advice from fairy tales note: I originally thought there was a good chance he was guilty, but after the demonstration of "evidence" in this trial, it's obvious they have no case.

You obviously are full of it. I don't understand you.. the case presented by the prosecution has been pretty strong. If all testimonies given by victims were all the same (no inconsistencies) then I would ask questions.

	08-03-2005 12:17									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo You obviously are full of it. I don't understand you.. the case presented by the prosecution has been pretty strong. If all testimonies given by victims were all the same (no inconsistencies) then I would ask questions.

we must be watching different trials then (actually I admit I'm not watching it- is it even televised?) I'm just going by the media leaks of "evidence"

	08-03-2005 12:19									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident we must be watching different trials then (actually I admit I'm not watching it- is it even televised?) I'm just going by the media leaks of "evidence"

I get a lot more from the local news stations. In a half hour, it is the biggest story. I'm watching reports from the news about the trial. I don't think the trial is televised. I'm going by media leaks myself, and I see a strong prosecution case. I also see the facts. Obviously you must be watching Saturday Night Live.

	08-03-2005 12:20									#64
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How do you explain the explotaion of money tried by this mother out of other celebs? This case is full of holes and ****. Let all of us just crucify the freak cause nobody is in his camp. B.S.

	08-03-2005 12:22									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski How do you explain the explotaion of money tried by this mother out of other celebs? This case is full of holes and ****. Let all of us just crucify the freak cause nobody is in his camp. B.S.

An appeaser. I bet you listen to the jackson ****. What about the many different cases of abuse that have been reported? You have to realize when accusations start to mount, it becomes very difficult to worm your way out of them. The case is pretty solid, not perfect but quite solid.

	08-03-2005 12:36									#66
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If the jury finds him guilty, then some people will say the white jury and court system are racist and the media helped convict him. Not to mention the corrupt parents flourishing the sue-happy stigma.

If the jury finds him innocent, then it's the whole "if you're rich you can get away with anything" song and dance.

I have a feeling we'll see the latter happen. Regardless, not a good ending for America's judicial system either way after the media gets finished with it.

Even though the parents are corrupt that doesn't necessarily make Michael innocent, but I'm not on the jury so I don't have to decide based on limited information. Being in California, hearing how the kid knew specific details about Michael's Johnson sounded the most damaging to me so far.

	08-03-2005 12:40									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo An appeaser. I bet you listen to the jackson ****. What about the many different cases of abuse that have been reported? You have to realize when accusations start to mount, it becomes very difficult to worm your way out of them. The case is pretty solid, not perfect but quite solid.

By that very statement, you make a case for the mother being prosecuted if it's true.


The accusations mount, yet she still allowed her children into that situation?

She did it for money, wether Jackson is guilty or not.

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	08-03-2005 12:43									#68
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I just know what it sounds like when a child is being molested and or has been molested. This kid doesnt sound like it at all. they way he has acted and things he has stated. He comes acorss like he is coached and making things up.

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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski By that very statement, you make a case for the mother being prosecuted if it's true. The accusations mount, yet she still allowed her children into that situation? She did it for money, wether Jackson is guilty or not. ACK!

Oh I have nothing to say about the mother or any parents who would put their children in that position. But that does not let Jackson off the hook for the crimes he committed.

I don't give a **** if she did it for the money. If Jackson messed with those kids, he deserves to get a guilty verdict.

Oh so, Mrs Tuberski, you interviewed the kid yourself? You have seen the trial? Coached or making things up? Give me a damn break. I've seen enough testimony to know it is difficult for that. There would be less inconsistencies if the testimony was coached. The testimony seems humanly accurate.. it may have some problems, but seems credible.

	08-03-2005 13:00									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo Oh so, Mrs Tuberski, you interviewed the kid yourself? You have seen the trial? Coached or making things up? Give me a damn break. I've seen enough testimony to know it is difficult for that. There would be less inconsistencies if the testimony was coached. The testimony seems humanly accurate.. it may have some problems, but seems credible.

Believe me, she would know.

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	08-03-2005 13:03									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Believe me, she would know. ACK!

No I don't. In fact I'm going to make judgements on my own. I can tell when someone is lying or not, and I just don't see it in here.

	08-03-2005 13:07									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo No I don't. In fact I'm going to make judgements on my own. I can tell when someone is lying or not, and I just don't see it in here.

You are a human lie detector?

I'll believe my wife before I believe you. Not that I find you unbelievable, but the wife is always believable

Sorry.

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	08-03-2005 13:07									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo Oh I have nothing to say about the mother or any parents who would put their children in that position. But that does not let Jackson off the hook for the crimes he committed. I don't give a **** if she did it for the money. If Jackson messed with those kids, he deserves to get a guilty verdict. Oh so, Mrs Tuberski, you interviewed the kid yourself? You have seen the trial? Coached or making things up? Give me a damn break. I've seen enough testimony to know it is difficult for that. There would be less inconsistencies if the testimony was coached. The testimony seems humanly accurate.. it may have some problems, but seems credible.

I dont have to interview the kid. I know. Believe me I know. I have worked with kids that have been molested before and this kid has not been. In my professional medical opinion that has seriouswork done with molested kids, this kid show no signs of any abuse other then that by his mother. At the time the kid is claiming abuse there was a special put out with him in it with jackson and that is the most damageing to thier case.

	08-03-2005 13:09									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski You are a human lie detector? I'll believe my wife before I believe you. Not that I find you unbelievable, but the wife is always believable Sorry. ACK!

Is your DL, I mean wife a human lie detector?

I don't find your wife believeable.

quote: I have worked with kids that have been molested before and this kid has not been. In my professional medical opinion that has seriouswork done with molested kids, this kid show no signs of any abuse other then that by his mother. At the time the kid is claiming abuse there was a special put out with him in it with jackson and that is the most damageing to thier case.

Two of my friends (a guy and a girl) were molested when they were younger. And I have talked to them about it. I also see what kind of scars it has left on them for life. So I'm not stupid when it comes to this. I also do not buy into your chatter.

	08-03-2005 13:12									#75
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These are just like the people who think OJ Simpson was innocent.. he got away with murders... but people still think he was innocent. Go against all evidence and try to distort it... hey who knows.. Jackson will probably get away wtih these crimes.

	08-03-2005 13:14									#76
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo Is your DL, I mean wife a human lie detector? I don't find your wife believeable. Two of my friends (a guy and a girl) were molested when they were younger. And I have talked to them about it. I also see what kind of scars it has left on them for life. So I'm not stupid when it comes to this. I also do not buy into your chatter.

Boy, calling her a DL is original.

You are stupid when it comes to this.

You don't know how badly.

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	08-03-2005 13:15									#77
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Boy, calling her a DL is original. You are stupid when it comes to this. You don't know how badly. ACK!

I am stupid when it comes to this? Do you have a better ****ing response then that or is that all you are going to say? You are stupid when it comes to this.. you know how retarded that sounds?

	08-03-2005 13:17									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo I am stupid when it comes to this? Do you have a better ****ing response then that or is that all you are going to say? You are stupid when it comes to this.. you know how retarded that sounds?

Yes you are stupid when it comes to this. You may have intelligence in other areas but this? You have no clue what you are talking about.

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	08-03-2005 13:18									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Yes you are stupid when it comes to this. You may have intelligence in other areas but this? You have no clue what you are talking about. ACK!

What a retarded response.. I know a lot about this because i'm ****ing bombarded with this every single day.. also I hear a lot of things in this city about the Jackson case.. that's all I see on the damn papers.... so please think again. I actually live in the damn city where the trial is taking place! I'm not too far away from the court house either!

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I dont give a care bout the DL whatever that means. There are two people in this forum that knows I know what Im talking about I will not say it for it is no ones business but mine. However you are entitled to believe what you want. I have alot of experience with molestation and i know what im talking about.

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I live in the city, I know what I'm talking about, I also know what the signs for molestation are... and I will continue believeing what I want. I want Jackson jailed for the crimes he did in fact commit.

	08-03-2005 13:21									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo What a retarded response.. I know a lot about this because i'm ****ing bombarded with this every single day.. also I hear a lot of things in this city about the Jackson case.. that's all I see on the damn papers.... so please think again. I actually live in the damn city where the trial is taking place! I'm not too far away from the court house either!

Location doesn't mean a thing. I could bombard myself with this stuff if I choose to.

I'm not talking about the trial, however.



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	08-03-2005 13:21									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Location doesn't mean a thing. I could bombard myself with this stuff if I choose to. I'm not talking about the trial, however. ACK!

No. It does matter. Because it is all there is on the news, on the papers.. I can't help but walk pass newspaper stands...

	08-03-2005 13:22									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo No. It does matter. Because it is all there is on the news, on the papers.. I can't help but walk pass newspaper stands...

So? You don't have to read it.

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	08-03-2005 13:23									#85
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski So? You don't have to read it. ACK!

But I do glance at it because I have to walk pass these news stands...

Did that ever get to you, smart one?

	08-03-2005 13:25									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo But I do glance at it because I have to walk pass these news stands... Did that ever get to you, smart one?

So, glancing at a newspaper, you are able to read the entire article?

You must be a speed reader.

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	08-03-2005 13:26									#87
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I usually get the newspaper for world affairs.. and then there is a lot of stuff about Jackson and his crimes in there..

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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo But I do glance at it because I have to walk pass these news stands... Did that ever get to you, smart one?

And least we all forget that every thing that is written in the papers is the truth HELLO.

	08-03-2005 13:28									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski And least we all forget that every thing that is written in the papers is the truth HELLO.

That's why I read many different sources...

	08-03-2005 13:30									#90
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo That's why I read many different sources...

What the STAR and The Enquirer?

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