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Four police officers are dead after conducting a raid on a marijuana grow operation northwest of Edmonton on Thursday.

At approximately 10 a.m. MT, a shootout broke out between police and a male suspect at a farmhouse in Rochfort Bridge near the community of Mayerthorpe, about 130 kilometres northwest of Edmonton.

Alberta Solicitor General Harvey Cenaiko says the officers were executing a search warrant when they were met with gunfire.

RCMP spokesman Cpl. Wayne Oakes confirms that the officers were conducting an investigation at a rural residence. He said there was reason to believe a lone male suspect was armed with a high-powered rifle.

RCMP Commanding Officer Bill Sweeney says a fifth person was killed at the scene, though he wouldn't confirm it was the gunman.

In an early evening news conference from Mayerthorpe, Sweeney said: "As you can well imagine, the loss of four police officers is unprecedented in recent history in Canada. . . . It's devastating."

He added that not since the Northwest Rebellion of 1885 have so many police officers been killed in the line of duty.

The RCMP has not released the names of the deceased officers, as they are still in the process of notifying family members. Sweeney said three of the officers were based in Mayerthorpe, and one was from Whitecourt, Alberta.

In a statement, Prime Minister Paul Martin said:

"On behalf of the Government of Canada, I would like to express my condolences to the families of the officers who were killed as they carried out their duty in enforcing the law and protecting the public.

"At this moment of difficulty and loss, you are in our thoughts and prayers."

Martin was kept informed of the developing events during phone conversations Thursday with RCMP Commissioner Giuliano Zaccardelli.

The prime minister was expected to call for a moment of silence Friday before delivering a speech to the Liberal party national convention in Ottawa.

Maj. Scott Lundy, a spokesman for Edmonton Garrison, said the military received a request just after 12:30 p.m. MT from the RCMP for assistance.

He said two armoured personnel carriers, an ambulance and about 20 military personnel were dispatched from the military base shortly after that.

But about two hours later, police told the military their help was no longer needed.

Alberta Premier Ralph Klein said he was surprised and saddened that such a tragedy would occur in the quiet farming community.

"I would hope that it would serve as a lesson for all those who want to enter into something illegal not to do so," he said.


Damn.

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In other news NYE hasn't posted today.

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Sad for the guys' family, but the government shouldn't be cracking down on drugs anyway.

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Got spare money?

NYE runs a computer business IIRC.

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Sad for the guys' family, but the government shouldn't be cracking down on drugs anyway.

Not that I don't agree, but I don't think this is really the time or place for that.

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It's awful, but the US isn't the only country where this kind of crap happens. That's a strange feeling to feel sad and relieved that you're not alone.

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NYE runs a computer business IIRC.


I know. He lives up that way, though. Perhaps he will have some more info.

Can't say I'm surprised. I guess you don't expect that kind of response from crims in Canada.

It's a dangerous job and I bet that this won't lead to better money for cops.

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Were they growing hydro pot?

If so, the police had no business going there without being armed to the teeth - those guys don't mess around. It's not like Uncle Joe's patch in the woods.

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Were they growing hydro pot?

If so, the police had no business going there without being armed to the teeth - those guys don't mess around. It's not like Uncle Joe's patch in the woods.

You have to remember this is in Canada NW of Edmonton, I don't think the rural RCMP out there have ever dealt with this before.

It says a lot that they felt they had to call in the military to help with a single gunman.

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Where I grew up, people know not to go thrashing around in the Bush. The cops go in with maximum hardware when they have to.

He must have had some gun to be able to take out four cops. Here's hoping the government doesn't skimp on the pensions for these officers' families.

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This is aweful.

When I was going to work it was being reported that 2 mounties had been wounded in a raid. When I left work I am greeted with news of 4 dead.

The word is he ambushed the 4 mounties. He was actually arrested in a raid yesterday, but was later released.

2 mounties were left to sit on the property while waiting for other investigators from Edmonton to go over the place. Rumour is there was a chop shop in addition to the grow op.

The suspect returned to his property and by that time 2 other mounties had joined the first 2 (shift change?). The guy got the drop on them with a rifle. Word is only 1 of the mounties had a chance to draw his weapon.

Very shortly afterward 2 investigators from Edmonton arrived and saw a uniformed officer on the ground. They spotted the gunman and exchanged fire. 1 of them was wounded (flown to Edmonton and is going to be OK according to reports). They reported the gunman was hit during the exchange of fire (he staggered) .

The gunman disappeared into a building (house?). The unwounded officer got his partner out.

Later on a dog and his handler found the body of a man in a closet in the building. It is being reported that was the gunman. It is unknown whether he bled to death or shot himself.

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Holy ****...

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Where I grew up, people know not to go thrashing around in the Bush. The cops go in with maximum hardware when they have to.


Well that'll near definitely be the national standard from now on, set on this precedent. In urban Alberta especially, organized crime has been recent target of the media and an increasing police force. This rural incident, once solidified in association with organized crime - will have the Province holistically apesh*t against a new foe

Al Qaeda? Nah. Hell's Angel's and Asian minority X are fast becoming the Provinces own social fear

RIP for those officers.. doing their job and picked off one by one by a hothead thug. Wow

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RIP.

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all this over some marijuana

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You have to remember this is in Canada NW of Edmonton, I don't think the rural RCMP out there have ever dealt with this before.

It says a lot that they felt they had to call in the military to help with a single gunman.


Not so. Grow ops are big business in Canada, and are increasingly moving into rural areas. The police involved were guarding a grow op raided the day before when they were ambushed by a gunman with a high powered rifle.

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But why didnt they have a SWAT (or Canadian equivalent) team go out there?

Drug operation + Rural Area = the suspects are armed, dangerous, and ready to kill/crazy white folks

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Space, it was only a marijuana farm
You never know when somebod liek that is going to be the one to go over the top at you

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Space, it was only a marijuana farm
You never know when somebod liek that is going to be the one to go over the top at you

According to the new information, the raid itself was fine, the 2 officers left to guard it were ambushed.

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hard to guard againtst that sort of thing.

somebody is ill ing to die he can kill a few cops with hi,m/

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Thank you for your sacrifice.

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RIP

I wonder why didn't they search the place for weapons while they were there?

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They probably did. I don't think he got the weapon from there, it sounds like he came back with the weapon.

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CALGARY, Alberta (Reuters) -- Four Royal Canadian Mounted Police officers were shot and killed during a raid on a marijuana-growing operation in rural Alberta Thursday, in one of the bloodiest days in the history of the national police force, a senior official said.

A suspect in the shootout that erupted inside a large farm building that police were investigating also died when he turned his rifle on himself, said Bill Sweeney, commanding officer of the RCMP in Alberta.

"The loss of four officers is unprecedented in recent history in Canada. I'm told you have to go back to about 1885 in the RCMP history during the Northwest Rebellion to have a loss of this magnitude," Sweeney told reporters in the town of Mayerthorpe, about 140 km (90 miles) northwest of Edmonton.

"It's devastating."

The Mounties' names were not released. They were described as junior members of the force that has long been one of Canada's most famous national symbols.

In the late morning, the officers, armed with handguns, entered a large metal hut as part of a stakeout that began the night before when they came under fire from what police said was a man armed with a rifle.

In response, the force called in its SWAT team and major crime units and closed the airspace over the area. It requested the Edmonton city police department helicopter as well as armored personnel vehicles from Edmonton's armed forces base.

In mid-afternoon, police surrounding and stormed the building only to find the bodies of the officers and the suspect, Cpl. Wayne Oakes said.

The suspect may have entered to find the officers inside, then opened fire, Oakes said.

Police have been cracking down on illicit marijuana "grow-ops" that have sprung up across Alberta. Many of the operations targeted by the so-called police "Green Teams" are said to be connected with organized crime.

"The issue of grow-ops is not a ma-and-pa industry as we've been seeing for a number of years. These are major serious threats to our society and they are major serious threats to the men and women on the front line who have to deal with them," RCMP Commissioner Giuliano Zaccardelli said in Ottawa.

The federal government has angered police organizations and U.S. officials by planning to introduce legislation that would decriminalize marijuana possession.

It has been 120 years, during the long rebellion by Metis and Indians in western Canada, since so many national police officers have been shot and killed.

In 1963, four were killed in a plane crash in Yukon. In 1958, five died when their boat sank in Ontario.

In a statement, Prime Minister Paul Martin said: "Canadians are shocked by this brutality, and join me in condemning the violent acts that brought about these deaths."

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It's getting stranger according to reports on the radio.

Late yesterday a sheriff's officer was on the property on some business of the court (seizure?). He saw some strangeness and called the RCMP. Apparently the guy was not there.

The RCMP arrived and found the grow op. They called the guys who handle that. The suspect turned up at some point, but ran away. He was never in custody.

While the 'Green team' was there cleaning up the pot, they found signs of auto theft (chop shop). They called auto theft investigators in Edmonton, but it was late.

The mounties packed up and left, leaving 2 officers to sit on the site until the auto theft people from Edmonton could get there.

There are now conflicting reports of what happened next. All witnesses are dead. It will be some time before we learn the results of the RCMP investigation into what happened exactly, but the latest reports are that he got the first 2 in the building (bodies inside) and then got the next 2 as they arrived (bodies outside).

The next to arrive had the gun fight with him, and then the 4 officers and gunman were later found dead.

Apparently the guy was widely known to be very bad news by people in the area. Since we don't have a death penalty the only good news is that rodent won't be lounging about at taxpayer expense. Good shooting to the mountie who got him.

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From what I heard the suspect was injured, limped off inside, crawled in a closet and shot himself.

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Yep, either bled to death or shot himself. Either way he's dead and couldn't run away again. So he isn't at large and on his way to Mexico, or worse, on a killing spree.

Some people from the area who had run ins with him called into CHED. He sounded like quite a package.

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*******.

What the **** would he get for a grow op and chop shop?

3 years?

Instead he decides to kill four people and end up dead himself.

What a piece of ****.

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Factoid of the evening... most grow op convictions result in no jail time.

 
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