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ACK!!! PTHBBPPPTTT!!!!
Feb 2002
time: 23:21
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Originally posted by Asher
I honestly am dumbfounded. With the recent news of the 4 deaths in Alberta from the RCMP officers raiding a grow-op, the debate has ignited again.
The buzz is now all about how evil Marijuana clearly is.
Why is it banned? When demand for it is so high, and so many people use it (its use is increasnig in Canada last I checked), why do we still make people go to shady dealers for it? Why do we create this massive, profitable black market that profits organized crime and breeds violence?
The responsible thing to do is legalize the possession of, and distribution of, and growing of, marijuana. Eliminate the black market, regulate it, and tax it.
The only reason marijuana is a 'gateway drug' is because it forces users to deal with dealers, who likely try to push them into harder, more expensive drugs.
We need to legalize marijuana, and we need to educate people about it.
It's irresponsible to do otherwise. Four brave RCMP officers lost their lives to a career criminal who is using the black market for marijuana to make money. Remove that source of income from these scumbags, use the tax money from marijuana and put it directly in the health care system instead. |
You do know that they smoke pot right?
Legalize it, but fire them if they use it. You should be a politician.
 ACK!
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Sava
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GO GO GO!
Mar 2001
time: 23:21
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Let's see.
To smoke pot, I have to go to a dealer rather than buying it from a store. I don't have any guarantees as to the purity and the quality of the product. |
OR you grow your own! 
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There is also a stigma to it's use. Perhaps not in your crowd, but certainly in mine, a stigma not attached to moderate drinking. |
I don't care about stigma's... if people want to be ignorant and think pot is bad, then fine. It's their loss.
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Legalisation would likely change both of these impediments, and increase usage.
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Legalization has no bearing on usage. If anything, legalization leads to less usage. But only if you look at which countries have more liberal attitudes towards pot and compare their usage statistics. HINT: the Netherlands has lower usage per capita than the US and pot is legal there.
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How was prohibition a failure? |
uhmmm let's see... people still doing it despite it being illegal. The law is supposed to be about punishment. Why punish people for smoking marijuana? Where is the justice in that? And if prohibition's goal is to curb usage and not just be about punishment, then it has been a massive failure. Just look at the billions flushed down the toilet on the drug war in America. It's pure insanity. Think of all the children that could receive free education or medical care with that money. Think of what that money could have done if it had been dedicated to solving problems in Africa. How many lives could have been saved? Millions perhaps.
But no, a bunch of holier than thou moronic "moralists" wanted to punish people for using marijuana, and it got made illegal. And in America, pot was made illegal, in part, because of racism towards Mexicans.
And BK, you cannot deny Asher's point. Nor have you addressed it either. That prohibition is funding criminal enterprises. So please, forget everything else I've said about marijuana... just address Asher's point that "illegal" marijuana is funding criminals like this guy who killed four Canadian law enforcement officers.
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Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001
time: 00:21
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
How was prohibition a failure? |
Duh.
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National prohibition of alcohol (1920-33)--the "noble experiment"--was undertaken to reduce crime and corruption, solve social problems, reduce the tax burden created by prisons and poorhouses, and improve health and hygiene in America. The results of that experiment clearly indicate that it was a miserable failure on all counts. The evidence affirms sound economic theory, which predicts that prohibition of mutually beneficial exchanges is doomed to failure
The lessons of Prohibition remain important today. They apply not only to the debate over the war on drugs but also to the mounting efforts to drastically reduce access to alcohol and tobacco and to such issues as censorship and bans on insider trading, abortion, and gambling.[1]
Although consumption of alcohol fell at the beginning of Prohibition, it subsequently increased. Alcohol became more dangerous to consume; crime increased and became "organized"; the court and prison systems were stretched to the breaking point; and corruption of public officials was rampant. No measurable gains were made in productivity or reduced absenteeism. Prohibition removed a significant source of tax revenue and greatly increased government spending. It led many drinkers to switch to opium, marijuana, patent medicines, cocaine, and other dangerous substances that they would have been unlikely to encounter in the absence of Prohibition. Those results are documented from a variety of sources, most of which, ironically, are the work of supporters of Prohibition--most economists and social scientists supported it. Their findings make the case against Prohibition that much stronger.[
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From the ultra-liberal think tank, the Cato Institute.
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Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001
time: 00:21
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One time I ate 2 pot cookies in a very short time period. Very, very strong ones. So I had an extremely intense high--but then came the crash. I suddenly plunged into a paralyzing state of paranoia and abject terror over nothing in particular. Far worse than any fear I've ever felt under "normal" circumstances, and completely irrational. Took me 3 days to feel fully okay again.
So high doses can have bad side effects. But had I had a comparable dosage of alcohol, I would likely have been poisoned and died.
Last edited by Boris Godunov on 05-03-2005 at 10:20
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Dr Strangelove
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It's interesting that cannabinoid receptor blocking drugs will soon be available to combat tobacco addiction, alcohol addiction and obesity. It is evident that the THC molecule mimics something in our brain that is involved in the mediation of addictive behavior. Taking that into consideration maybe it's not a good idea to have a lot of pot running around.
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