05-03-2005 12:12									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo quote: Ramo is too busy being a sell out anarchist working for the Man and accepting the benefits of an oppressive system.

I thought you'd like that one.

quote: quote: I don't really care. When only one source is easily checked, warning bells go off for me that someone is either lieing or grossly missrepresenting their facts. Riiiight. A free weekly should have an extensive bibliography for every single article.

Yes. If one is going to provide sources to back up one's claims, you should at least make the minimal effort not to be half assed about it.

	05-03-2005 12:19									#32
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I take it that you're gonna pay the Austin Chronicle for adding these rediculous extra publishing costs?

	05-03-2005 12:24									#33
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Considering the fact you don't actually need that procedure, why should they pay for your fetish regarding medical procedures?

	05-03-2005 12:32									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar My wife doesn't need a procedure to remove tumors growing on her arm?! This explains many things about the United States

yeah, people are too obsessed with cosmetic looks.

	05-03-2005 12:32									#35
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Like your married anyway.

	05-03-2005 12:37									#36
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That would explain your high medical costs. You have four Mormon wives and dozens of kids to care for.

	05-03-2005 12:50									#37
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The guy forgot the fact of how you play sports that no one else does, and then think you're good.

	05-03-2005 12:55									#38
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quote: The EU is trying to play with the big boys which means competing with all countries, including China and the US. Those vaunted social programs cost an arm and a leg and merely train those Europeans who I have met who come to the US for the monetary opportunities not possible within the EU.

What is this supposed to mean?

The social programs provide things that people need. They also help to provide a safe and equitable social environment, which people like.

	05-03-2005 12:59									#39
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From a National Science Foundation survey dated from 2001:

quote: A higher percentage of men than women answered every question but three correctly. The gender gap was 20 or more points for four questions: * Lasers work by focusing sound waves (61 percent of men compared with 30 percent of women). * Light travels faster than sound (89 percent of men compared with 65 percent of women). * Earth takes one year to go around the Sun (66 percent of men compared with 42 percent of women). * Earth goes around the Sun and not vice versa (86 percent of men compared with 66 percent of women). More women than men answered the following questions correctly: * The father's gene decides whether the baby is a boy or a girl (72 percent of women compared with 58 percent of men). * Antibiotics do not kill viruses (55 percent of women compared with 46 percent of men).

http://www.nsf.gov/sbe/srs/seind02/c7/c7s1.htm#c7s1l4a

Note that this poll shows a worse picture of the American public than the "The Week's" poll (granted, it's a few years out of date).

Lesson is, Dino, You don't go broke betting on the ignorance of your fellow Bible Belters.

	05-03-2005 13:05									#40
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Polls are often junk unless they are done correctly. I have seen anti-abortion rights people claim that 80% of the American population is anti-abortion (true figure is closer to 1/3). How'd they get that poll result? They passed out the poll at a Sunday Catholic mass in a consevative town.

Yes, non-scientific polling will get you the results you want to not results that are worth anything.

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Do you really think that the NSF ran a **** poll?

Those numbers seem about right to me.

Whining about the accuracy of polls in general is the shittiest copout available. If you think there's a problem with the poll's methodology then read it and get back to me.

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It's an NSF poll.

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Agahon, my point is that life and people are neither equitable or equal. I had always thought those whom I worked with could do my job once taught but found out otherwise. Only certain people I taught could perform many of my programming positions. The rest could not fathom it. So in the attempt to make all equal no one is allowed to live up to their potential without non-government help.

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quote: * Lasers work by focusing sound waves (61 percent of men compared with 30 percent of women).

? I thought it was light using mirrors.

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I wonder if Oerdin think it makes the US look good to have its national science foundation unable to run a scientific poll.

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quote: Originally posted by Agathon quote: * Lasers work by focusing sound waves (61 percent of men compared with 30 percent of women). ? I thought it was light using mirrors.

I was assuming that the correct answer to that was "false"...

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quote: Agahon, my point is that life and people are neither equitable or equal. I had always thought those whom I worked with could do my job once taught but found out otherwise. Only certain people I taught could perform many of my programming positions. The rest could not fathom it. So in the attempt to make all equal no one is allowed to live up to their potential without non-government help.

That's not what welfare is for. Welfare exists so that things get done - things virtually everyone wants - that the market doesn't.

	05-03-2005 13:14									#48
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quote: I was assuming that the correct answer to that was "false"...

I thought they meant right or wrong.

If they did, it's just another reason to laugh at America

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quote: Originally posted by cia If the European Union were a state in the USA it would belong to the poorest group of states. France, Italy, Great Britain and Germany have lower GDP per capita than all but four of the states in the United States. In fact, GDP per capita is lower in the vast majority of the EU-countries (EU 15) than in most of the individual American states.

Of course, comparing GDP per capita is next to meaningless. You can at least step up one level to compare PPP istead. No, PPP isn't completely accurate either, but it is far more accurate than GDP per capita.

	05-03-2005 13:18									#50
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quote: -Electrons are smaller than atoms. (True)

Electrons have no well-defined size...

quote: -The center of the Earth is hot. (True)

Pffft. It's not even on the weak scale.

	05-03-2005 13:18									#51
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse I wonder if Oerdin think it makes the US look good to have its national science foundation unable to run a scientific poll.

goverment organizations are incomeptant in every level. Including the military. I was in the Navy, I saw how innefficient it was.

This is what you commies need to learn. The goverment cannot solve our problems. They cannot do anything right. Including polls.

	05-03-2005 13:20									#52
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quote: This is what you commies need to learn. The goverment cannot solve our problems. They cannot do anything right. Including polls.

Only the government can solve certain problems. That is what Americans need to learn.

	05-03-2005 13:20									#53
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The government tends to run things pretty well where I'm from. Americans just don't know how to hold their politicians responsible.

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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse The government tends to run things pretty well where I'm from. Americans just don't know how to hold their politicians responsible.

then why are you Canadians always *****ing about your slow health care system?

	05-03-2005 13:24									#55
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When was the last time you heard me *****? I'm not responsible for whiny homo Albertan semi-Americans...

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quote: then why are you Canadians always *****ing about your slow health care system?

Why are us Americans always *****ing about unaffordable health insurance?

Single payer health insurance.

	05-03-2005 13:30									#57
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But let's not let the truth get in the way of the Great Leader, who is leading a world democratic revolution against something.

	05-03-2005 13:40									#58
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse When was the last time you heard me *****? I'm not responsible for whiny homo Albertan semi-Americans...

Leave him alone. He's turning commie... slowly.

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quote: Using the same testing technology used in many national and international tests, the responses to these nine items were converted into a 0-100 scale.[4] The mean score for American adults on the Index of Scientific Construct Understanding was 55

Something more recent (oh, it has the earth & sun question too):


Science and technology good:


Where did you go:

	05-03-2005 16:27									#60
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http://www.nsf.gov/sbe/srs/seind04/c7/c7h.htm

quote: Very few Americans admit to not being interested in S&T issues. Only about 10 percent of surveyed Americans said they were not interested in news about scientific discoveries or new inventions and technologies. In Europe, however, half of surveyed residents said they were not interested in S&T.

quote: Neither Americans nor Europeans got high marks in a 2001 quiz designed to measure their knowledge of science. Out of 13 questions, Americans answered an average of 8.2 correctly, Europeans 7.8. Science knowledge in the United States and Europe is not improving. Respondents' ability to answer most questions about science has remained essentially unchanged since the 1990s, with one exception: more people now know that antibiotics do not kill viruses. This may be attributable to media coverage of drug-resistant bacteria, an important public health issue. More Americans now agree with the theory of evolution. The 2001 NSF survey marked the first time that more than half (53 percent) of Americans answered "true" in response to the statement "human beings, as we know them today, developed from earlier species of animals." (In Europe, 69 percent responded "true.") Whether and how the theory of evolution is taught in public schools remains one of the most contentious issues in U.S. science education.

I kept the last quoted paragraph on the theory of evolution to stay on topic , which is laughing/bashing at America.