08-03-2005 22:20									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski No, you have to see Diggstown to understand...... ACK!

Being condescending are we, Tubski?

	08-03-2005 22:25									#62
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quote: Originally posted by alva Being condescending are we, Tubski?

Stop it, jerk!



ACK!

	08-03-2005 22:46									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Solomwi Because AN is a surreal journey as much as anything. I thought the extras did a good job playing to that aspect. They weren't the most exciting scenes, but the movie doesn't work on that level if they only show the highlights. In the original, we've got enough downtime shown to make it work, but I still thought it worked better with the extra scenes. For the record, I'll take either version and not complain. I simply like Redux a little bit better.

Same here. The original was my favourite movie, then it got even better The extra scenes just added to the original sense of surrealism, insanity and one mans personal journey into hell. I must have seen the movie like 15 times...

	08-03-2005 23:41									#64
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I have enjoyed the following:

Band of Brothers

Tombstone

Memphis Belle

Enemy at the Gates

Gauntlet (Clint Eastwood)

Battle of the Bulge

The Longest Day

Saving Private Ryan

We were Soldiers

Warriors (New York City Gangs movie circa 78?)

A Few Good Men

The Patriot

Braveheart

12 Angry Men (I enjoyed both versions 1957 & 1997)

Patton

The Godfather Part 1 & II

A Bridge too far

Grandpa Troll does Apolyton a greek tragedy if I remember

	08-03-2005 23:51									#65
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Lemme guess, you own a gun, right?? Am I right?? A ghost told, so I must be right!!.

	08-03-2005 23:57									#66
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a couple are recent additions and may not stand the test of time....

1. Pulp Fiction
2. Monty Python & The Holly Grail
3. LOTR
4. Hidden Dragon, Chrouching Tiger
5. Fight Club
6. Hero
7. Battle Royale
8. Planet of the Apes (original)
9. Any Trek Movie
10. Tais Toi!

	09-03-2005 04:20									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Kamrat X Same here. The original was my favourite movie, then it got even better The extra scenes just added to the original sense of surrealism, insanity and one mans personal journey into hell. I must have seen the movie like 15 times...

actually I went and bought apocalypse now redux, and I haven't gotten around to watching it yet . so I can't say which is better. That's why I just voted for the original.

	09-03-2005 05:04									#68
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quote: Originally posted by alva Lemme guess, you own a gun, right?? Am I right?? A ghost told, so I must be right!!.

If @ me

Nope

When I retired as a Federal Police Officer, I hung it up

My son however is on the SWAT Team and has all the firearms I may need

Gramps

	09-03-2005 05:11									#69
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Fight club and pulp fiction as well as all of the original planet of the apes movies were great too.

	09-03-2005 05:28									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident actually I went and bought apocalypse now redux, and I haven't gotten around to watching it yet . so I can't say which is better. That's why I just voted for the original.

You won´t be dissapointed by redux if you liked the original

	16-03-2005 20:14									#71
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So, Ned, have you determined Apolyton's favorite movie yet?

	16-03-2005 21:35									#72
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1. Lord of the Rings trilogy (2001, New Zealand)
2. Sleepers (1996, USA)
3. Pulp Fiction (1994, USA)
4. La Vita E Bella (1997, Italy)
5. Der Untergang (2004, Germany)
6. Simon (2004, Netherlands)
7. De Dominee (The Preacher) (2004, Netherlands)
8. The Godfather (1972, USA)
9. The Usual Suspects (1995, USA)
10. The Shawshank Redemption (1994, USA)
11. Kill Bill Vol. 1 (2003, USA)
12. The Matrix (1999, USA)
13. Siu Lam Juk Kau (Shaolin Soccer) (2001, Hong Kong)
14. Monty Python And The Holy Grail (1975, UK)
15. O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000, UK)
16. Reservoir Dogs (1992, USA)
17. The Big Lebowski (1998, USA)
18. The Silence Of The Lambs (1991, USA)
19. Enemy at the Gates (2001, USA)
20. Le Fabuleux Destin D'Amélie Poulain (2001, France)
21. Cidade De Deus (2002, Brazil)
22. Ocean's Eleven (1999, USA)
23. X2 (2003, USA)
24. The Green Mile (1999, USA)
25. Bruce Almighty (2003, USA)

	16-03-2005 21:37									#73
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As JohnT said, we demand a tally

	16-03-2005 22:01									#74
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quote: Simon (2004, Netherlands)

not the one with Al Pacino i hope...

	16-03-2005 22:03									#75
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1. The Lord of the Rings (I-III)

2. Raiders of the Lost Ark
3. The Never Ending Story
4. The Empire Strikes Back
5. Peter Pan (2003 version)

6. The Fifth Element
7. Toy Story
8. Braveheart
9. Pirates of the Caribbean
10. Gladiator

11. The Matrix
12. Monty Python and the Holy Grail
13. Star Wars
14. Harry Potter and the Prizoner of Azkaban
15. A Series of Unfortunate Events
16. The Sting
17. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone
18. Jurrasic Park
19. Master and Commander
20. Finding Nemo


(1-5) are pretty much set in stone at the moment. I do not expect LOTR to ever be displaced either...

(6-20) could very well be interchangable. (After seeing Gladiator again, it moved up a lot on my list - and I expect Series of Unfortunate Events to do the same - Star Wars continues to drop down though...)

	16-03-2005 22:10									#76
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Do you really need to ask what Apolytoners' favorite movies are before you do a tally?

1. LOTR trilogy
2. Matrix
3. Whatever the third biggest geek-fest movie was. Probably something from the Star Wars collection.
4 - 100. A random mix of personal choices

	17-03-2005 00:16									#77
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG quote: Simon (2004, Netherlands) not the one with Al Pacino i hope...

I have absolutely no idea what movie you're talking about. So that should answer your question

It's a Dutch comedy/drama about the unlikely yet deep-seated friendship between hash dealer Simon and gay dentist Camiel. It deals with many issues of Dutch morality that many non-Dutch people often misunderstand: sex, drugs, gay rights, euthenesia, etc. At the same time heartbreaking and hilariously funny.

Together with De Dominee it's by far the best movie Dutch cinema ever produced (though frankly that isn't saying much...)

	17-03-2005 00:16									#78
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Just some realy good movies that noone has mentioned so far:

Snatch
Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
Reservour Dogs
SW The Return Of the Jedi
Dogma
Team America World Police
Philadelphia

	17-03-2005 00:24									#79
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LotR sucks! Matrix sucks (though I kinda liked the second one^-^)! Star Wars sucks!

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quote: Originally posted by JohnT So, Ned, have you determined Apolyton's favorite movie yet?

Soon as I have some time.

	04-04-2005 17:43									#81
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT So, Ned, have you determined Apolyton's favorite movie yet?

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Btw, Molly, why do you dislike Amadeus so much?

My biggest complaint is that it is too much like a bio-pic, but it is not nor was it meant to be. Taken literally, as many audience members undoubtably did, it is a unfair, slanderous attack on Salieri.

On the other hand it is a film about Mozart, something that doesn't come around all that often. I take what I can get.

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	04-04-2005 17:54									#83
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Btw, Molly, why do you dislike Amadeus so much?

It seemed infantile- and I'd rather have heard just the music, either Salieri's or Mozart's .

I prefer my pantomime villains in pantomimes, I suppose.

	04-04-2005 18:05									#84
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Well, it did unfortunately propogate the "infantile Mozart" characterization that has affected that poor mans reputation since the day he died.

Hmmm... Upon consideration, perhaps I don't like this film all that much after all.

	05-04-2005 01:07									#85
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quote: Originally posted by Kontiki Do you really need to ask what Apolytoners' favorite movies are before you do a tally? 1. LOTR trilogy 2. Matrix 3. Whatever the third biggest geek-fest movie was. Probably something from the Star Wars collection. 4 - 100. A random mix of personal choices

Lord of the Rings movies weren't that great. They aren't on my list anywhere. Same with the Matrix.

	05-04-2005 01:27									#86
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Just some thoughts , not a list

Ok - its been awhile, but Im inclined to put Godfather part 2 ahead of part 1. Both great though.

I cant really decide between Annie Hall, Manhattan, and Hannah and Her Sisters, but Woody dont deserve three slots.

Lawrence of Arabia - ah.

Kurosawa - yes - Seven Samurai, I suppose.

Apocalypse Now - something inside me rebells at the universal praise - it was good, but not THAT good.
edit - Dr. Strangelove better for Kubrick, I think.


Citizen Kane - maybe

A Night to Remember - good, but not THAT good.

Saving Privat Ryan - Maybe. Steve warrants one slot. I think Schindlers List may be underrated. And the kiddie films.

Casablanca - an irrational pick, I know. So sue me.

Glory - no not that good, but it deserves a mention.

A Passage to India. Well something by Merchand Ivory, anyway.

Dr. Zhivago.

My Dinner with Andre (cause life aint all big epics)

Amadeus wasnt THAT good a film - equus was a better play, and better as a play than a film. BTW the Amadeus character was based on Peter Shaeffers own agon, not on the historic Salieri, IMHO.

Chinatown.

Das Boot.

Z

In default of the best French films, which i havent seen, lets go with a sleeper "mon oncle d'amerique"

The Fast Runner, cause no one else is gonna mention an Inuit film.

The Seventh Seal, for Bergman, I think. Yes. Better than stuff about Swedish domestic life. Chess, anyone?

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	05-04-2005 04:14									#87
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In no particular order:

The Lord of the Rings trilogy
Dr. Strangelove (well of course)
The Pink Panther
The Mouse That Roared
Amadeus
A Beautiful Mind
Out of Africa
The Mission
Dr Zhivago
Lawrence of Arabia
12 Monkeys
Fifth Element
Empire of the Sun
Finding Neverland

Yeah, I have mixed feelings abou Amadeus when I think about how grossly inaccurate its portrayal of Mozart was, but the story told by Salieri was terrific.

	05-04-2005 05:56									#88
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LOTR trilogy
Patton
Aliens
Terminator
Pink Panther Strikes Back
Kelly's Heroes
Good Bad & the Ugly
Monty Python & Holy Grail
Dumb & Dumber
Jurassic Park

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	05-04-2005 07:06									#89
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Well, it did unfortunately propogate the "infantile Mozart" characterization that has affected that poor mans reputation since the day he died.

Mozart was infantile.

http://internetdump.com/users/coprologist/Mozart.html

That's part of his genius.

quote: I'd rather have heard just the music, either Salieri's or Mozart's

Ugh. Ugh. Oof. Blech.

Salieri was really, really...mediocre. His music is utterly forgettable.

Come on, the play/movie wasn't meant to be historical. It was historical fiction, and explicitley stated as such. And taken on its own merits, I think it's absolutely superb. And I don't think the portrayal of Salieri is cartoonishly villainous, either. He's a pretty sympathetic character.

	05-04-2005 07:19									#90
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So Mozart made scatalogical references. Big deal. So did Martin Luther, who claimed that he once beat back the devil partly by throwing his own **** at the hellbeast. Now thats crazy!

My theory about the Basle is that Mozart heard that she was into anal sex and this was his way of broaching the subject in the mid 18th-century. The fact that she was his first cousin (and was thus taboo) increased the need for a roundabout phrasing. However, there's no mistaking lines like this:

quote: So come for a bit, or else I'll siht. If you do, this high and mighty person will think you very kind, will give you a smack behind, will kiss your hands, my dear, shoot off a gun in the rear, embrace you warmly, mind, and wash your front and your behind, pay you all his debts to the uttermost groat, and shoot off one with a rousing note, perhaps even let something drop from his boat.

If that's not a call for "hey, let's do it anal and then jump in the shower, washing each other off" in 18th-centuryese, then I don't know what is!

Again, Mozart wasn't a kid, he was a dirty coot who wanted to hit it as he wanted to hit it.